Can we get this moved to the lounge. No one cares about this guys opinion.

 

As poSSum pointed out, I don't see GM to be the cause of this, rather, one of many, many players..... Unfortunately, your last sentence is undeniably true.......... It amuses me any time CNN/Fox/CNBC/etc... shockingly reveals to us a[nother] corporate/gov't scandal, as though we're supposed to be surprised..........

Marketing aside, how do you fix it?

 

HEY BUICKMAN
How about the exceeding greed of today's dealers charging asinine markups for product (Solstice for example)? So do you as a dealer feel you are looking out for Joe Workingman by doing that? Are you helping GM by doing it (and we all know that is your true goal )? Since it's likely to slow sales down it hardly seems like it. It's supply and demand you say? It's capitalism you say? That's what GM is saying too.

 

ummm, WTF

This is a pretty hard case to prove. An even harder case to try and justify socialist/communist thought.


Joe workingman doesn't deserve the BS benefits and wages they get from putting a car together. So screw this union pitty party theory.

Save the BS about white house greed and the gas pump.

Actually, save all the BS thats a novel thought

 

Whether you agree or disagree with Buickman, at least he's adding content, thought, and ideas to this forum instead of just repeating and rehashing other's opinions like 90% of the rest of y'all do because you're too unintelligent to formulate your own self-sustaining opinion in the midst of such a discussion.

 

Hey Threxx, maybe you can ask him to PM you from now on when you have a need for content, thought, and ideas. The rest of us come here for camaro and other car news. There are plenty of other places on this little internet for content, thoughts, and ideas.

 

Well, you said it. Please, everyone, refrain from content, thought, and ideas on this forum. So sayeth MarinReconZ28!

Or people could actually contribute and not just follow the herd. Either way...

Agree or disagree with Buickman if you want. A lot of what he's been talking about is coming to pass. I'm not sure whether I agree with what he says or not, but one thing's clear: GM's in a lot more trouble than they are letting on.

 

You're actually sticking up for him? You're here a lot; I would have thought that someone as intelligent as you think you are would have been able to see through BM's rhetoric. He is not looking out for GM, he is not looking out for "Joe Workingman" as he puts it; he is looking out for himself and the best way to turn a buck. As for repeating and rehashing, what new as he added since his first week here? Everything is Wagoner, Wagoner, and Wagoner. Talk about repetition.

 

I like blue.

Blue is a good color.

I think blue is better than green because green isn't anywhere as pretty as blue is.

Blue is better.

 

So you think that unions are our way of life? Who do you think is pushing the jobs overseas? Just because you work at a company that makes a lot of money does not mean you should get paid anymore then you are worth. Its the unions ideal that everyone should share in the loot regardless of importance to the company that has led to this. The union has made employees contractors and now the companies are taking new bids on the contracts. I hate it myself but whats the alternative???

 

I'll typically stick up for anyone willing to add a halfway intelligent and unique opinion rather than rehash the same old crap (as the majority of the rest of this forum has become quite comfortable with)

I didn't say I agree with him. I just get tired of seeing people who only have enough brainpower to critisize a person for speaking their opinion.

 

Exactly what I was thinking - emphasis on socialist.

 

I'm wondering if his dealership is a union shop? Some are... not usually the sales staff though.

 

Is this guy still trying to wring his $1,000,000 out of GM for his "expertise"?

Threxx, I disagree with you, BM's posts got unoriginal after his very first in this forum. What even prompted this thread? I'll tell you. Everyone had forgotten about this guy here. We all moved on (thankfully). It's all about attention. It's all about drumming up support for a power play on GM. Problem is, a very small number of members on this site are open to his views. Why bother here?

I almost wish GM would throw up their hands and allow BM to implement his "plan". After it does little to nothing to help GM, we can all go back to other issues until the next know-it-all comes along.

 

One could argue that posts like this one from you, or your posts spouting the "circle jerk" theme, or your posts praising Toyota (for example), are "rehashing the same old crap".

The fact that you like Toyota's products hardly makes you unique, it just makes you more unique on a board centered around a GM product... That uniqueness does not make your opinions more valid.

Similarly, the fact that many people in here are "GM fanboys" or whatever does not make their opinions necessarily less valid. How are you to know how they arrived at their opinions? Who says you have the monopoly on self formed opinions, while "90% of y'all" in this board just follow like sheep?

I think you know I respect you as a member, and you certainly contribute to the board, but occasionally your posts come off as pretty condescending, almost like you think you are better than everyone. The post defending Buickman sort of struck me that way. Maybe it's just me though, or maybe you didn't mean it that way.