A .5 second difference is about 5 car lengths at 100 mph. The cars were tested at different times. Like someone else said, they need a head to head, which is bound to happen soon.

That same data shows the 0-60 for the GT to be 0.2 sec slower than the Z06.

I'm not picking sides here. I love both the GT and the Z06. They will need a head to head comparison to make a fair judgment. The GT is by no means out of the Z06's league though.

Dan

 

with a solid aluminum chassis, must be all those retro ques killing them even in there race car.

 

thats a bus +.5 max. Not 12 like the guy is trying to imply.

 

C/D stated that they almost lost it at the Spa track in the Eau Rouge section trying to dulicate the Chevy test drivers times. "Somewhere in the sequence we erred" The car got squirrelly "We weren't frightened. Terrified is a better word" The only thing that saved there a** was the Z06s stability control system.
Once again Car and Driver is so contradictive

 

You're prolly right on the lengths. But it still doesn't explain how a Z06 is supposed to come around the GT from 100-150.

As far as rebadging to 550, the 2 quarter mile times from 2 different mags indicate it'll be closer to 500 than 550.

As far the Cobra R vs Z06. You do realize the Cobra R is a Mustang, right? Not a purpose built supercar.

I misread your "slamming" on the GT. I guess you mean they were getting on it. Well I hope they slam the Z06 too. Don't want any excuses. The last vette(C6) they tested didn't do so well, at least on the raw acceleration part.


BTW, I'm not knocking the Z06. Best sports car under a hundred grand.

 

even in that previous post about the Z06 at the track in EU. The driver stated at times the car was terrifying.

C/D shouldnt ever try to duplicate numbers, some of there 1/4s ive seen over the years are a little less then impressive compared to what is seen by other drivers.

But in the end, if the Z06 is frieghtening fast. I much rather be terrifyed by my Sports car, then bored to hell by it.

Terrifying just sounds very interesting to me

 

really depends at which RPM range each will thrive, Z06 could pull like a bastard post 100, only time will tell.

until we see it on a dyno we really wont know, but its something that has been mentioned. The Z06 is putting out high numbers.

well until recently Ford didnt really have a dedicated "Supercar" that had been built recently. So i would place my bet, the 00' is the closiest thing Ford has produced for consumer use intended for the "Supercar" market, Tread lightly because "Technically" the vette isnt a supercar neither, but sure as hell is putting down supercar numbers, is it not?

No problem , I certainly hope they slam on the Z06 as well, because so far as stated above the mags are saying the Z06 is coming through the light at 11.5-11.7, if thats pussyfooting it, then there is a plausable 11.3-11.0 in Chevys new pride and joy. In the end its exciting times for all fan boys, be they Bow tie boys, or Blue oval boys. To be fair the 02 SS was said to come through the lights at 13.2 , most of us have seen them bone stock coming through in the 12.99 - 12.7 range.





No matter how we cut this pie, the time of the 11 second american top performers is here in full force, i for one say. Bout' time.

Glad to see all 3 automotive giants having atleast 1 contender there this round.

 

The Z06 is badass regardless of how it compares to anything.

And STOP CALLING IT A GT-40!!

 

Nevarrrr!!!!!!! GT-40!

 

A few LS1 F-bodies have hit 12s bone stock in the quarter, but that is not anywhere near even being remotely close to most of them.

Quoting 12.99 - 12.7 for a bone stock '02 SS is just very unlikely. 13.2 is about the norm. Fact.

Hell, since you're saying it, I want proof regarding a 12.7 second quarter mile time a bone stock SS.

 

I, personally, really like the way the Ford GT looks. It is a beast and imho a worthy addition to the GT name. I think it pretty much had to look the way it does to get the publicity they wanted it to get and to make the supercar guys to sit up and take notice. The Z06 will also make them take notice, much the same way the Viper did/does. I like all three cars, and I would honestly own each of them if I had the kind of money necessary to do so. Each have their pro's and con's, and if you are just comparing car to car it is pretty much anybody's guess who is the king. If you are looking at performance and cost, the Z06 is top dog IMO.

David

 

search around, 12.9 is common place for a 02 SS with a Good driver, ive heard it was common in a great deal of the late LS1's.

Do a search, im sure you'll find some pleasant reading

 

Performance per price isnt even a debate, the Z06 humbly takes that title hands down. Im speaking in reference to any modern car on the planet.

 

Look at my registration date. Look at my post count. I've been around.

I still wouldn't say 12.9 is a common place. It's happened several times, but it's not the norm. I would also venture to say that most SS drivers are not skilled enough to drive them to a 12 second timeslip.

And I still want proof of a 12.7.

 

I see that, but post counts dont mean you have insane strip experiance.


What is the norm? Ive seen a LS1 F-bod run 13.9 all day, there is 2 deciding factors in any 1/4 run. Car capabilities and Driver capabilites.

02' SS's stock are capable of sub 13second times, the only question is "Is the drivers capabilites matching of the machine he heads?".

And i agree Most SS drivers arnt capable of grinding out 12 second slips, but that doesnt mean the machine isnt well capable of it with a good driver behind the wheel.

When i received my 1993 (stock mind you) most of the guys at the track couldnt get there stocks hitting below 13.8, end of the day i had very little trouble squeeking out a 13.7, not saying im special. I just had a good day, and they had a consistantly bad one. Same can be said for any car.

I and many others have seen the same LS1 F-bod stock run 12's over and over, meaning the Car is very capable of it, with the right man commanding it.
Never seen anything post 12.8 personally on a stock LS1 F-bod, but ive been told of the 12.7 times, although again ive never seen them personally. 12.8 consistants is the Best i can vouche for.