First Look at the Gen V Small Block
#46
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
The idea is to get more power with the same mileage. We might see an extra mpg when they finish the final gearing, but anyone expecting a 450hp engine to get the same fuel economy as a 320 horse V6 isn't being at all realistic.
Your '99 LS1 is rated by the old EPA standards. It changed in 2004. By the new standards, you'd probably be about 24mpg highway.... this one gives 26mpg with about 120 or so more hp.... just to give some perspective as to how big a deal the mileage of this engine is.
#47
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
i do not get the uproar over the engine designation. Assuming the first L is required (GM has been doing it back to the 60's), what would you have liked to se instead of LT.
LA - unavailable (Chrysler has LA used, might get sued)
LB -
LC
LD
LE
LF
LG - already used in GM I think
LH
LI
LJ
LK
LL - used as well I think
LM - used
LN
LO
LP
LQ - used
LR
LU
LV
LW
LX - Chrysler would probably be unhappy
LY - used
LZ
Not many of those are standouts.
LA - unavailable (Chrysler has LA used, might get sued)
LB -
LC
LD
LE
LF
LG - already used in GM I think
LH
LI
LJ
LK
LL - used as well I think
LM - used
LN
LO
LP
LQ - used
LR
LU
LV
LW
LX - Chrysler would probably be unhappy
LY - used
LZ
Not many of those are standouts.
#48
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
i do not get the uproar over the engine designation. Assuming the first L is required (GM has been doing it back to the 60's), what would you have liked to se instead of LT.
LA - unavailable (Chrysler has LA used, might get sued)
LB -
LC
LD
LE
LF
LG - already used in GM I think
LH
LI
LJ
LK
LL - used as well I think
LM - used
LN
LO
LP
LQ - used
LR
LU
LV
LW
LX - Chrysler would probably be unhappy
LY - used
LZ
Not many of those are standouts.
LA - unavailable (Chrysler has LA used, might get sued)
LB -
LC
LD
LE
LF
LG - already used in GM I think
LH
LI
LJ
LK
LL - used as well I think
LM - used
LN
LO
LP
LQ - used
LR
LU
LV
LW
LX - Chrysler would probably be unhappy
LY - used
LZ
Not many of those are standouts.
Last edited by JeremyNYR; 10-26-2012 at 03:50 PM.
#49
#50
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
Agreed, but I just knew that the LSx fanboys would be in full freak out mode when this went public. All that Gen 2 LT1 smack talk has come back to haunt them. Karma is a bitch.
Anyway... LS3, LS6, LS7 were all recycled designations too.
Hell, WS6 was used on Grand Am and Grand Prix models as well.
GM has a loooong history of reusing these designations / codes guys.
LOx was used on at least the LO3 (gag) 3rd gen cars and Caprices.
LNx was used on at least the LNF turbo fours.
Anyway... LS3, LS6, LS7 were all recycled designations too.
Hell, WS6 was used on Grand Am and Grand Prix models as well.
GM has a loooong history of reusing these designations / codes guys.
LNx was used on at least the LNF turbo fours.
Last edited by Chewbacca; 10-26-2012 at 05:20 PM.
#51
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
Even the different divisions used the same engine RPO codes. Probably not at the same time, though.
The Pontiac SD455 had the RPO code LS2.
And a Pontiac 2.5 I4 had the RPO code LS6.
The Pontiac SD455 had the RPO code LS2.
And a Pontiac 2.5 I4 had the RPO code LS6.
#53
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
#56
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
I didn't expect what I posted to be considered an uproar, I just said I was surprised they would choose it. However, you did just demonstrate that there were plenty of other letter choices (or they could've gone with L##, like the L69, L89 or L98). The only reason LT and LS stand out more than say LK now is because we assiciate them with the engines they represent. Even arbitrarily choosing to start with LT, I think only LT1, LT4, and LT5 would be associated with a previous engine by many customers. The only downside to using LT1 again for me personally is that now my 95 LT1 engine is gonna be considered the "crappy LT1" and not just by rude LSx snobs this time! (and the big block LT1 crowd looks realllly old now!)
LOx was used on at least the LO3 (gag) 3rd gen cars and Caprices.
LNx was used on at least the LNF turbo fours.
LNx was used on at least the LNF turbo fours.
10 million hours of computer simulation and development...
...internet talks about RPO designations
...internet talks about RPO designations
#57
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
SSCamaro99_3 and Koz
Sorry my post didn't interest you. Maybe some of your posts don't interest me either, but it would be rude and counterproductive for me to make an issue of it in a public forum. As you can see, it just makes the conversation to continue in the direction you don't care for.
Sorry my post didn't interest you. Maybe some of your posts don't interest me either, but it would be rude and counterproductive for me to make an issue of it in a public forum. As you can see, it just makes the conversation to continue in the direction you don't care for.
#58
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There are way too many people around here (everywhere) concerned about an RPO code. GM probably went with what they did because of a lack of options, You name it, some other engine or option probably already has that (insert here) RPO designation. Stop whining like babies
#59
Re: First Look at the Gen V Small Block
What if there is only one version of the LT1 and AFM is standard with both the automatic and manual versions?