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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta

Originally Posted by Darth Xed
Wow.

Today's Nissan has a "cartoon styled" family car in the Maxima, and no supercar in the U.S. at all...

They also built the Sentra which is worse than the current Stratus or Neon sedans as far as looks, safety, and performance.... and it's pretty long-in-tooth to boot.

But you sing their praises all the time!
1. I'm not a big Maxima fan, but GM's current slate of FWD sedans shows you can do much, much worse.

2. The Sentra is the last of the pre-Renault Nissans. As I've said many time before, this car is going bye-bye. The Sentra will be replaced by at least 3-4 seperate models.

3. I don't own a Maxima or a Sentra.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta

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1. I'm not a big Maxima fan, but GM's current slate of FWD sedans shows you can do much, much worse.
That's debatable. I can't think of a single GM sedan that looks worse than the current Maxima... of course, we were talking about Dodge/Chrysler, yet you switched to GM

2. The Sentra is the last of the pre-Renault Nissans. As I've said many time before, this car is going bye-bye. The Sentra will be replaced by at least 3-4 seperate models.
So? They still build it. You bashed Cavalier when Cobalt was on it's way... pretty hyopcritical to bash one, and make excuses for the other.

3. I don't own a Maxima or a Sentra.
Ya, well, you don't own an Armada either, do you?
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta

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That's debatable. I can't think of a single GM sedan that looks worse than the current Maxima... of course, we were talking about Dodge/Chrysler, yet you switched to GM
Well, that Chrysler 300C looks and feels like more a quality piece than any GM product. It must be the Mercedes sourced parts.




Originally Posted by Darth Xed
So? They still build it. You bashed Cavalier when Cobalt was on it's way... pretty hyopcritical to bash one, and make excuses for the other.
The big problem with the current Sentra isn't the drivetrain (which is fine) or the overall fit and finish (which is fine) but the very old, undersized platform that dates back to Nissan's darkest mid-90s days. The upcoming car is coming with a turbocharged 2.5 liter VR-series in the performance flagship, a well tuned Renault derived chassis and it won't look anything like the old model. The "won't look anything like the old model" part is something you sure can't say about about the Cobalt.




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Ya, well, you don't own an Armada either, do you?
Still suffering from "SUV envy?"
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta

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Well, that Chrysler 300C looks and feels like more a quality piece than any GM product. It must be the Mercedes sourced parts.
:blah:
The big problem with the current Sentra isn't the drivetrain (which is fine) or the overall fit and finish (which is fine) but the very old, undersized platform that dates back to Nissan's darkest mid-90s days. The upcoming car is coming with a turbocharged 2.5 liter VR-series in the performance flagship, a well tuned Renault derived chassis and it won't look anything like the old model. The "won't look anything like the old model" part is something you sure can't say about about the Cobalt.
Perhaps, but imo the Cavalier wasn't ugly like the Sentra is. The Cavalier sedan was blandish, I suppose, but still looked decent for a small car (certainly better than the Corolla and Sentra, anyway). The coupe was rather stylish for its class, however, although the front end got a little goofy in '03 and '04. But the overall shape was pretty nice.
Still suffering from "SUV envy?"
Again, you could make all these guys eat their words and maybe even earn a modicum of credibility if you'd just put up a pic...

*sigh*
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