Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Hmmm...Something I don't understand. Zeta is a go. We will have a Buick, Chevy, and Pontiac from it at a minimum. What happened to the "GM can't adjust it's NA manufacturing process to make Zeta" statement? 
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by AnthonyHSV
Zeta will be positvely effecting profits next year 
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by redzed
In Australia, perhaps. For red-blooded Americans - those who drive on the right and don't eat Kangaroo meat - the wait will be much longer. We're talking about at least 2008 for the GTO and 2009 for the Pontiac sedan and Chevrolet derivatives.
GTO will almost certainly be a MY2007 car....
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by redzed
In Australia, perhaps. For red-blooded Americans - those who drive on the right and don't eat Kangaroo meat - the wait will be much longer. We're talking about at least 2008 for the GTO and 2009 for the Pontiac sedan and Chevrolet derivatives.
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
Sorry I'm not buyin it.(Not the car, but the scenario you're outlining)
Too many "if's" in there. If Holden makes this Torano. If it'll hold a V8. If GM has the time or money to fit another RWD car in its plans(in addition the already late Solstice and upcoming zeta cars). If it'll get done by 2010...
What we know was that zeta is for sure. It's a GO. It will hold the big V8. GM's spending big time money and effort on the program. It's NOT for a Camaro.
Too many "if's" in there. If Holden makes this Torano. If it'll hold a V8. If GM has the time or money to fit another RWD car in its plans(in addition the already late Solstice and upcoming zeta cars). If it'll get done by 2010...
What we know was that zeta is for sure. It's a GO. It will hold the big V8. GM's spending big time money and effort on the program. It's NOT for a Camaro.
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by Z284ever
If you have an opinion......and I mean a real, heartfelt opinion, not merely the automatic anti-Z284ever stance..........NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO VOICE IT!!!!!!!!!! I'm not kidding.
Ok, I've signed petitions, emailed GM, signed Bobs blog, etc.... What exactly is the best way to voice our opinion on getting a new Camaro? Which medium will have the greatest effect? Whats the best way to make GM HEAR us?
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by smackkk
Ok, I've signed petitions, emailed GM, signed Bobs blog, etc.... What exactly is the best way to voice our opinion on getting a new Camaro? Which medium will have the greatest effect? Whats the best way to make GM HEAR us?
Sounds like you're doing all the right things.
I wasn't really referring specifically to Camaro there however. I was referring more to possibilities of what might happen to Zeta during the shake-up.
Right now, I'm more concerned about getting a Camaro that's done right......rather than simply getting a Camaro.
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
OK, let's say all this is true, and quite frankly, I am not in a position to deny it... so let's go with that, even though it's a pretty sad state of affairs if everyone, or the majority of people working on a new car think it is basically unworthy... I mean, if "Bono himself" doesn't like what he's doing, then why is he doing it to begin with?
How am I still supposed to tell them what I want changed when I don't know what is wrong to begin with... that is the point.
Really the only things you have mentioned is that it's not going to handle a road coarse as well as a DCX LX, and you base this on driving a current GTO...??? I can see that there are some connections possible... but it's not like you drove the new Zeta car.
Maybe you just need to throw some more bones out there... if you can't or won't do it in an open thread, please feel free to PM me... I'm always willing to listen, and maybe you can enlighten me.
How am I still supposed to tell them what I want changed when I don't know what is wrong to begin with... that is the point.
Really the only things you have mentioned is that it's not going to handle a road coarse as well as a DCX LX, and you base this on driving a current GTO...??? I can see that there are some connections possible... but it's not like you drove the new Zeta car.
Maybe you just need to throw some more bones out there... if you can't or won't do it in an open thread, please feel free to PM me... I'm always willing to listen, and maybe you can enlighten me.
Kind of disappointing that you didn't reply to this here or in PM...
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Right now, I'm more concerned about getting a Camaro that's done right......rather than simply getting a Camaro.
We need something that will handle on rails. Everyone gets to wrapped up in 1/4 mile times, we need something that can go fast in a straitline, but can also take a corner or two. Thats the kind of camaro I want, thats the ONLY kind of camaro I would buy.
*rant off*
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
Kind of disappointing that you didn't reply to this here or in PM...
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by Z284ever
I'd say I've thrown lots of bones.......maybe they're nailing you on the noggin.....since you seem so irritated by them.
All you keep saying is basically "Zeta sucks for a Camaro because the current GTO doesn't handle the way I want a new Camaro to.... and it's too big"
And, while I'll agree with you on some of it (the handling ot a degree, but not the size), it doesn't make a whole lot of sense int he big picture.
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
Nah.
All you keep saying is basically "Zeta sucks for a Camaro because the current GTO doesn't handle the way I want a new Camaro to.... and it's too big"
And, while I'll agree with you on some of it (the handling ot a degree, but not the size), it doesn't make a whole lot of sense int he big picture.
All you keep saying is basically "Zeta sucks for a Camaro because the current GTO doesn't handle the way I want a new Camaro to.... and it's too big"
And, while I'll agree with you on some of it (the handling ot a degree, but not the size), it doesn't make a whole lot of sense int he big picture.
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by jg95z28
What if the Chevy Zeta-GTO equivalent is one car, and the Chevy-ponycar is a different Zeta?
If that is the case, it still doesn't explain the Zeta bashing....
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Re: Edmunds "Inside Line" on Zeta
Originally Posted by jg95z28
What if the Chevy Zeta-GTO equivalent is one car, and the Chevy-ponycar is a different Zeta?
There are people within GM who actually realize that a ponycar is not a midsized 2 door GTO/MonteCarlo type car, and that one thing that a Camaro must do, is handle....regardless of the fact that it's prime competitor - Mustang - seems to have relegated handling to a secondary role.
Unfortunately, for every one guy at GM that "gets it", there are others who are simply clueless. Just hope the good guys win.
Last edited by Z284ever; Feb 16, 2005 at 09:49 AM.