Drove a cts-v for a day
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Re: Drove a cts-v for a day
Originally Posted by blckbrd84
After driving both I really prefer IRS for the ride compliance and for the handling. There's a turn near work that's tight and has a bump right in the middle. With the WS.6 I brace beforehand and turn based on the fact I know the rear is going to hop a little over the bump. Meanwhile while I still feel the bump in the GTO it doesn't upset the rear as it does in the WS.6.
Chris
I agree TOTALLY with this kind of assessment! I feel the exact same way on areas like that.
Another situation where the IRS shines, IMO, is if you are at a stop sign, or red light, and where you stopped is a bunch of patched potholes in the intersection and such... My Z28's rear end would bounce all over this stuff trying to get going, even on an easy start... the GTO just glides right over it...
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Re: Drove a cts-v for a day
I think the V has hop issues because caddy wanted some sort of Caddy ride and so they used softer springs , shocks, and bushings. I have been told the optional FG2 shocks help the hop, but not a cure. If the hop wasn't there, I think it would have been easier to hook the V than my 03 Vette because of the higher weight, and I though , better weight transfer. For the record I got mine to hook and the rear went boom. The replacement rear is supposed to be better.
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Re: Drove a cts-v for a day
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
Hmmmm...That is interesting.
I wonder if the implemented fix was applied at the beginning of the MY2005 run, or during the course of it (somewhere mid-run)? And then possibly the car you had was a pre-fix car?
Just taking stabs at this, since other things I have read have pretty much said the issue was corrected.
I wonder if the implemented fix was applied at the beginning of the MY2005 run, or during the course of it (somewhere mid-run)? And then possibly the car you had was a pre-fix car?
Just taking stabs at this, since other things I have read have pretty much said the issue was corrected.
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Re: Drove a cts-v for a day
Originally Posted by Big Als Z
Oh boy, god save me if my Camaro comes with IRS...what is a poor boy like me to do? Lord knows that people only drive in straight lines, and at full throttle.
Sorry, but Ill take my IRS, world-class handling, 400+hp Z28 with 6spd in red please. For the rest of you, enjoy your Mustangs.
Sorry, but Ill take my IRS, world-class handling, 400+hp Z28 with 6spd in red please. For the rest of you, enjoy your Mustangs.
Originally Posted by falchulk
Go to www.themustangsource.com and check out the wheel hop thread. They have it pretty bad even with the live axle!
), and not only did it handle it, it never displayed an ounce of hop. Perhaps Ford should bring back those quad rear shocks the fox 5.0s had. They worked 100%!(For those of you who never took a look at the rear suspension of the old Fox body Mustangs, from 1985 on they actually had FOUR shocks, 2 vertical 2 horizontal. I've come across plenty of people who didn't know that.
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Originally Posted by blckbrd84
After driving both I really prefer IRS for the ride compliance and for the handling. There's a turn near work that's tight and has a bump right in the middle. With the WS.6 I brace beforehand and turn based on the fact I know the rear is going to hop a little over the bump. Meanwhile while I still feel the bump in the GTO it doesn't upset the rear as it does in the WS.6.
Chris
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Re: Drove a cts-v for a day
Originally Posted by guionM
I also prefer handling. It's just that reading the majority of posts here, and knowing how much of a hardcore, "engine-in-a-box", "Camaro should burn up the 1/4 mile" presence there is here on this site, maybe the next Camaro should be a live axle car. We can always go to the GTO or perhaps the next Monte Carlo.
That's a shocker. There were time I launched the begezzus out of my 5.0 (youthful enthusiasm ), and not only did it handle it, it never displayed an ounce of hop. Perhaps Ford should bring back those quad rear shocks the fox 5.0s had. They worked 100%!
(For those of you who never took a look at the rear suspension of the old Fox body Mustangs, from 1985 on they actually had FOUR shocks, 2 vertical 2 horizontal. I've come across plenty of people who didn't know that. )
Most people think IRS' strong point is handling, but as you also point out, it's ride compliance. You brought out the perfect example, a less than smooth turn. The live axle Camaro Z28 can outhandle early IRS C5 Corvettes on the track. Yet on real roads, where the pavement is less than perfect, the Corvette regains it's edge.
That's a shocker. There were time I launched the begezzus out of my 5.0 (youthful enthusiasm
), and not only did it handle it, it never displayed an ounce of hop. Perhaps Ford should bring back those quad rear shocks the fox 5.0s had. They worked 100%!(For those of you who never took a look at the rear suspension of the old Fox body Mustangs, from 1985 on they actually had FOUR shocks, 2 vertical 2 horizontal. I've come across plenty of people who didn't know that.
)Most people think IRS' strong point is handling, but as you also point out, it's ride compliance. You brought out the perfect example, a less than smooth turn. The live axle Camaro Z28 can outhandle early IRS C5 Corvettes on the track. Yet on real roads, where the pavement is less than perfect, the Corvette regains it's edge.
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