Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by WERM
What you find with Mustang is that you get 90% of the performance of the Camaro with none of the pain in the ***. For most people, that works out much better.
BTW, I'm waiting for someone to show me the CD for the 2005 Mustang. I highly doubt it is any worse than the 2002 Camaro.
BTW, I'm waiting for someone to show me the CD for the 2005 Mustang. I highly doubt it is any worse than the 2002 Camaro.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
What does any of that drivel have to do with the topic of this thread?? 

Nothing. If they talk about me for long enough, the pain of such a hyped vehicle falling short will go away.
Its ok guys and gals. Keep talking about, and not at the topic at hand.
As for what boards? LS1 and then LS2.com, as well as on this site and on other sites such as GMI. Promised that this car would be putting down numbers that matched LS1's. This car was gunna offer all of the performance of the last of the fbodies, but with higher quality.
I dont want to hear about the back peddling now. The Mustang is not what all the Ford fans had hyped for. Its ok...just keep rubbing your temples and repeat after me...
"GM doesnt make the Camaro. GM does not care about enthusiasts. Ford is for the enthusiast. Ford still makes the Mustang."
Or you can keep on going on with this nonsence of picking on me...whatever makes you feel better.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
I could have sworn that I made a prediction a few weeks back about the 05' GT performance and all signs point to me being correct. Some laughed and said that I was underestimating the vehicle by a fair margin but the more info comes in, the more I seem to be right on this one.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
What does any of that drivel have to do with the topic of this thread?? 

Originally Posted by Big Als Z
Nothing. If they talk about me for long enough, the pain of such a hyped vehicle falling short will go away.
Its ok guys and gals. Keep talking about, and not at the topic at hand.
As for what boards? LS1 and then LS2.com, as well as on this site and on other sites such as GMI. Promised that this car would be putting down numbers that matched LS1's. This car was gunna offer all of the performance of the last of the fbodies, but with higher quality.
I dont want to hear about the back peddling now. The Mustang is not what all the Ford fans had hyped for. Its ok...just keep rubbing your temples and repeat after me...
"GM doesnt make the Camaro. GM does not care about enthusiasts. Ford is for the enthusiast. Ford still makes the Mustang."
Or you can keep on going on with this nonsence of picking on me...whatever makes you feel better.
Its ok guys and gals. Keep talking about, and not at the topic at hand.
As for what boards? LS1 and then LS2.com, as well as on this site and on other sites such as GMI. Promised that this car would be putting down numbers that matched LS1's. This car was gunna offer all of the performance of the last of the fbodies, but with higher quality.
I dont want to hear about the back peddling now. The Mustang is not what all the Ford fans had hyped for. Its ok...just keep rubbing your temples and repeat after me...
"GM doesnt make the Camaro. GM does not care about enthusiasts. Ford is for the enthusiast. Ford still makes the Mustang."
Or you can keep on going on with this nonsence of picking on me...whatever makes you feel better.
By the same token, if there were a 2005 Camaro, it could run 16.1 sec 1/4 mile, get 10 mpg, require 104 octane, cost $55k, look like a Malibu Maxx, and "Big Al" would try to find a way to convince us that this was the best thing to come out of Detroit since.....well...it's just the best thing!
Guaranteed.
Of course, he comes here and post new stuff (plagerized from other sites) from time to time, so that makes him one of those "in the know". He's not an enthusiast in the least - rather, he is a little more than a GM apologist. A sad one at that.
There. No BS. No beating around the bush. And I apologize in advance to the folks that run this Forum.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
The drivel to which you refer, is just as relevant - or more so (because it is accurate) - as this drivel:
I mean really. Let's cut to the chase. "Big Al" is a whiny little kid with a chip on his shoulder. If it doesn't say GM, it doesn't need to be on this planet. The 05 Mustang could run 12.2 bone stock, get 45 mpg, run on ****, cost $15k, look like your favorite super Model, and "Big Al" would still find a reason to hate it...simply because it says "Ford" and is called "Mustang.
By the same token, if there were a 2005 Camaro, it could run 16.1 sec 1/4 mile, get 10 mpg, require 104 octane, cost $55k, look like a Malibu Maxx, and "Big Al" would try to find a way to convince us that this was the best thing to come out of Detroit since.....well...it's just the best thing!
Guaranteed.
Of course, he comes here and post new stuff (plagerized from other sites) from time to time, so that makes him one of those "in the know". He's not an enthusiast in the least - rather, he is a little more than a GM apologist. A sad one at that.
There. No BS. No beating around the bush. And I apologize in advance to the folks that run this Forum.
I mean really. Let's cut to the chase. "Big Al" is a whiny little kid with a chip on his shoulder. If it doesn't say GM, it doesn't need to be on this planet. The 05 Mustang could run 12.2 bone stock, get 45 mpg, run on ****, cost $15k, look like your favorite super Model, and "Big Al" would still find a reason to hate it...simply because it says "Ford" and is called "Mustang.
By the same token, if there were a 2005 Camaro, it could run 16.1 sec 1/4 mile, get 10 mpg, require 104 octane, cost $55k, look like a Malibu Maxx, and "Big Al" would try to find a way to convince us that this was the best thing to come out of Detroit since.....well...it's just the best thing!
Guaranteed.
Of course, he comes here and post new stuff (plagerized from other sites) from time to time, so that makes him one of those "in the know". He's not an enthusiast in the least - rather, he is a little more than a GM apologist. A sad one at that.
There. No BS. No beating around the bush. And I apologize in advance to the folks that run this Forum.

If you have a problem with him, why don't you take it to email?
So far you're just proving his point for him...
Originally Posted by Big Als Z
If they talk about me for long enough, the pain of such a hyped vehicle falling short will go away.
Its ok guys and gals. Keep talking about, and not at the topic at hand.
Its ok guys and gals. Keep talking about, and not at the topic at hand.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
If you have this problem with me, why didn't you do the same? Bueller?
As for talking about something other than the "subject at hand", one only has to look at his, and your posts to get an idea of why this happens. And believe me...I am not in the least worried that I might be proving Big Al's point in anything - be it in your eyes or anybody elses.
Have a great day.
As for talking about something other than the "subject at hand", one only has to look at his, and your posts to get an idea of why this happens. And believe me...I am not in the least worried that I might be proving Big Al's point in anything - be it in your eyes or anybody elses.
Have a great day.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
The drivel to which you refer, is just as relevant - or more so (because it is accurate) - as this drivel:
I mean really. Let's cut to the chase. "Big Al" is a whiny little kid with a chip on his shoulder. If it doesn't say GM, it doesn't need to be on this planet. The 05 Mustang could run 12.2 bone stock, get 45 mpg, run on ****, cost $15k, look like your favorite super Model, and "Big Al" would still find a reason to hate it...simply because it says "Ford" and is called "Mustang.
By the same token, if there were a 2005 Camaro, it could run 16.1 sec 1/4 mile, get 10 mpg, require 104 octane, cost $55k, look like a Malibu Maxx, and "Big Al" would try to find a way to convince us that this was the best thing to come out of Detroit since.....well...it's just the best thing!
Guaranteed.
Of course, he comes here and post new stuff (plagerized from other sites) from time to time, so that makes him one of those "in the know". He's not an enthusiast in the least - rather, he is a little more than a GM apologist. A sad one at that.
There. No BS. No beating around the bush. And I apologize in advance to the folks that run this Forum.
I mean really. Let's cut to the chase. "Big Al" is a whiny little kid with a chip on his shoulder. If it doesn't say GM, it doesn't need to be on this planet. The 05 Mustang could run 12.2 bone stock, get 45 mpg, run on ****, cost $15k, look like your favorite super Model, and "Big Al" would still find a reason to hate it...simply because it says "Ford" and is called "Mustang.
By the same token, if there were a 2005 Camaro, it could run 16.1 sec 1/4 mile, get 10 mpg, require 104 octane, cost $55k, look like a Malibu Maxx, and "Big Al" would try to find a way to convince us that this was the best thing to come out of Detroit since.....well...it's just the best thing!
Guaranteed.
Of course, he comes here and post new stuff (plagerized from other sites) from time to time, so that makes him one of those "in the know". He's not an enthusiast in the least - rather, he is a little more than a GM apologist. A sad one at that.
There. No BS. No beating around the bush. And I apologize in advance to the folks that run this Forum.

I agree but we cant complain about the all mighty AL on this site.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
What does any of that drivel have to do with the topic of this thread?? 

Also, nowhere close to all "Ford fans" thought that the base $25K Ford Mustang GT was going to outrun all LS1 F-bodies. As a matter of fact, very few said anything to that effect.
Thank goodness I don't assume that Al speaks for all GM fans.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Why exactly would somone constrict themselves to just one car company? It makes no sense to me, unless you are an employee and get a major discount on all of their cars. Otherwise you should shop around and not be so simple minded.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
It seems that a lot of people have a problem with anyone who doesn't like the Mustang so it is the reverse of what you are accusing Al of. He doesn't like the Mustang, so what, get over it! I don't like it either for many reasons. I am not being close minded because I don't like it, it is just not the car for me.
Also, for the people who do like the 05' Mustang, would you say that the performance of the car is what you were expecting and that you are satisfied with it?
Also, for the people who do like the 05' Mustang, would you say that the performance of the car is what you were expecting and that you are satisfied with it?
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Also, for the people who do like the 05' Mustang, would you say that the performance of the car is what you were expecting and that you are satisfied with it?
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Also, for the people who do like the 05' Mustang, would you say that the performance of the car is what you were expecting and that you are satisfied with it?
I think one of the most pleasent surprises though has got to be the handling. Motortrend said the 05 had a faster slalom time than any previous mustang except for the 2000 Cobra R (that's quicker than the 03/04 SVT Cobra). Not bad. I think the power increase was icing on the cake. All of the other improvements/refinements really sold the car.
Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
It seems that a lot of people have a problem with anyone who doesn't like the Mustang so it is the reverse of what you are accusing Al of. He doesn't like the Mustang, so what, get over it! I don't like it either for many reasons. I am not being close minded because I don't like it, it is just not the car for me.
I bought a 99 T/A back in Aug of 99. Kept it for about 8 months, and for a variety of reasons, decided it was just not the car for me. So I sold it. Doesn't mean it was a bad car.
To each their own.
Also, for the people who do like the 05' Mustang, would you say that the performance of the car is what you were expecting and that you are satisfied with it?


