Just like most GTO owners. So far most of the GTOs Ive seen run at the track are in the low 14s auto or stick. Then all make a mid 13 second pass and everyone thinks I have modded my car.

 

I'll get it, but not for two+ weeks. Whom did you bribe to get yours so early (or do you know people)?

13.8@102 is a great time. It's a bit faster than the usual Nissan 350Z and another hair faster than the Infiniti G35. It's roughly equal to a 2004 GTO. Those cars are all more expensive and need 91 octane.

The closest car in price would be the Honda Accord 6 spd coupe, which, if I remember right, C&D got a low 14s in the high 90s.

I think Ford has a winner.

And this car is as fast as the mythical 5.3l Camaro that has eaten up many MB of disk space on this server in the past.

 

No....look at the dyno charts, that certainly isn't the case.

MT ran the automatic well past 5400rpm BTW.

I can't believe you're believing a "my friend's, sisters cousin saw this" story, yet a VIDEO must be wrong.

Lightningal, how can you consider a video, not confirmed? So far, drivers haven't been able to get out of the 14s.

 

Because that...would...mean...that the Mustang isnt as powerful as everyone hyped it up to be.

Oh no, I feel another "Where is the 05 Camaro's dyno numbers/track times" comment comming on.
I think that it is better that there is no 05 Camaro. Its embarassing enough that an 05 Mustang cant even match 02 Camaro hp and 1/4 mile times.

 

AH! You mean '98

 

That's funny.

You guys do have to realize though, that the M*stang isn't a focused performance car like the Camaro is. It's less sporty, higher, doesn't handle as good, has lousy aerodynamics, and alot more people (many of them being girls) are going to be driving this car. It has a broader audience right now. Would it really be a good idea to give any and all possible LS1 Camaro-like performance in the GT?

 

What you find with Mustang is that you get 90% of the performance of the Camaro with none of the pain in the ***. For most people, that works out much better.

BTW, I'm waiting for someone to show me the CD for the 2005 Mustang. I highly doubt it is any worse than the 2002 Camaro.

 

I guess so....whatever they need to tell themselves.

Point is, a few months back, the Ford fans ranted up and down on every site that the new Mustang would run LS1 times, and be heavily underrated.
I have yet to see either. Best time, though better then in the past, is just about on par with the GTO.

But yeah, if thats they way Ford wants to position the Mustang, thats fine. Just dont come on here ranting how it will match LS1 Fbody times when it infact doesnt.

 

The guy in the video with the white gt just updated his track numbers. "my fastsest run was 13.71 @99.10" see the thread (updated drag strip #s) here: http://forums.2005fordmustang.com/

 

There's some funny stuff in this one - especially from Big "I hate everything with Ford on it" Al.

It looks like the new Mustang is going to dyno around 265-275 RWHP for the M5. That means its perhaps 10-15 HP above its rated 300. A bit under-rated, but nothing like the LS1 - especially the 01/02 LS1.

The car ought to run mid 13s with a good driver - perhaps a bit lower in killer air with a killer driver. In stock trim, and on average, it will likely be a few ticks behind LS1 F-bodies, and a tick or two behind an 04 GTO (more, obviously for the 05).

While some might have been crowing about it, I don't think Ford had "LS1 Killer" in mind when they put this car together. Among other things, there was no reason to, as that segment of the competition simply no longer exists. Rather, they put together a nice, decently-quick car (especially for the money). It will sell like hotcakes - to men, women, kids, whomever. I'm bettin that this was Ford's intentions. You might believe different.

I think it would be reasonable to assume that the so-called "Special Edition" Mustangs will be the ones to put down more serious numbers. I also predict that when this happens, the Big Al's of the world will continue to blabber something like "Ya, it only took Ford X years to beat the LS1 with a SE Mustang!" Rather typical for the narrow-minded.

 

Here is the next installment of "The World According to Al."

In this issue, we find that Al is laughing his *** off, saying "the new POS Mustang is only dynoing what a 10 year old F-body did............ neener, neener, neener."

He goes to take a nap, and has a nightmare about Mustangs. The '05 Mustang is his dream dyno's 310rwhp, out of its 300hp rated engine. Al then laughs his *** off, saying "the new POS Mustang is only dynoing what a 4-year old F-body did............. neener, neener, neener."

He wakes up in a cold sweat, but decides to try to get a little more sleep. Once again, he has a nightmare about Mustangs. In this dream, the '05 Mustang dyno's 350rwhp, out of its 300hp rated engine. Al, while sweating more, laughs his *** off again, saying "the new POS Mustang finally makes more hp than an F-body............ but stupid Ford had to wait until there was no Camaro to compare it with. If there was a Camaro this year, we all know that it would be making 400rwhp............ neener, neener, neener."

Al wakes up bathed in sweat, and vows to never mix beer and wine again.

Look forward to our next installment of "The World According to Al."

I know, I know.............. I am getting a bit carried away. The point made, however, is that Al would be able to justify the Mustang being a POS no matter what it did.............. how fast it was............. how cheap it was............ or how great it handled. He would find a way to bash it.

I like reading his posts for the comedic value.

 

What does any of that drivel have to do with the topic of this thread??

 

the point is, we are discussing a ford product on a gm board, AL is a die hard gm supporter and ford is rubbing the new mustang in his face.

 

I'm just tell you what he posted. I haven't taken the car to the track yet so I can't say for sure. And yes, the dyno seems to imply that you'd like to shift at higher than 5400rpm. Maybe he was short-shifting third and what it did was allow him to pull through fourth. Buh.....

As far as me believing "my friends...." its a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. I may be accepting unproven times but people such as yourself cannot let go of this 14 second video. Any 13 second car can run 14-15sec in the quarter. To me, a video of a slow run means less than nothing. If I sent my mother to the track with a Camaro, she's run 16's maybe.

Motortrend's results happened. 0-60 in 5.1sec and 13.6sec at 100mph in the quarter with the automatic. I would except their numbers to be a more accurate measure of the cars potential than some owner running it down the track for the first few times.

And unless someone can explain to me why the manual should be slower than the auto, the manual should have faster times than that. The real question should be, what is the difference between the GT's auto and manual times. We know this gap will be narrower than before.

As far as I'm concerned, trying to argue that the 05 GT is a high 13 second or low 14 second car with an experienced driver holds no weight.

And Al, I'm not sure which boards you were on when you read that the mustang guys were saying it would be as faster/as fast as the LS1's? I've been on mustang boards for 3 years and the most I've heard was stang guys saying it would be somewhere in the LS1 - LT1 range.

I believe this car is faster than all but the oddly exceptional LT1's and very close to the LS1's (with the LS1's holding the slight advantage). Definately a driver's race.

Its a bit unfair to compare the top LS1 quarter runs to the 05's as of yet. They are just starting to be delivered and we really haven't seen experienced people put up some good numbers. I say lets wait and see before we make any declarations.

IMO, just as the 05 GT will probably be a tick or two slower than many LS1's, the 04 GTO is a tick or two slower than the 05. Both Motortrend and Car and Driver have the 05 as faster than the GTO. Basically, another driver's race.

Another point I wanted to make, and I know I'm going to get european on you guys, is that most mustang owners are happy that the new car landing almost in LS1 territory, but they are more happy that their car will likely out race any close competitors when the track goes curvey.

I appreciate the fact that Ford is trying to mass produce a car with a Camaro's straight line speed, in an affordable package that will still be successful for the line. Yes, as Al frequently points out, this power level was set by the Camaro 7 years ago, but it is just as impressive today IMO. It was a great amount of oomph back then and it still is. The gap between this level and other cars is smaller than 7 years ago, but Ford fans are just happy they got there.

Being a North American Muscle car fan, a great and successful mustang can only help produce a great camaro. I have no doubt that if GM brings back the Camaro that it will try to be a notch faster than the Mustang. This is a reciprocal benefit that can only be good for all of us.

Jeez, I guess I felt like typing today.

Let me know what you think,
Dan

 

13.7@99.Xmph '05 GT 5-speed.
The car has 400 miles on it, and the owner states the air was crappy (can't say...I wasn't there).
He also stated the cars hook very well and he cut a 1.93 on stock tires.
S.