Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Also, for the people who do like the 05' Mustang, would you say that the performance of the car is what you were expecting and that you are satisfied with it?
What do I expect from GM? If they ever get around to making a Camaro again, I would expect it to have higher performance levels, but cost substantially more. I do not expect a "bang for the buck" champ like the 93-02 cars.
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
LOL. Honest answer? At great personal risk....the wife talked me out of getting the Z06. The reasons made sense, in that she knew I'd tinker with whatever I got, and the Cobra is a known commodity for me and my garage. Also, both her and a good friend of mine pointed out that the Vette had similar ergonomics to the 99 T/A I had...meaning you 'fall in' and 'climb out', which is one of the reasons I sold that car (some people don't mind - personal preference). I also prefer a more upright seating position. Finally, I could get a new 04 for somewhat less than a 2002 Z06 with decently low mileage.
I came very, very close to getting the Z06. I think I would have been happy with it, but in the end, and especially in a few months when I get started doing silly stuff with the Cobra, I think it will have been the right decision. If not....well....it will be paid for in 2 weeks.
I came very, very close to getting the Z06. I think I would have been happy with it, but in the end, and especially in a few months when I get started doing silly stuff with the Cobra, I think it will have been the right decision. If not....well....it will be paid for in 2 weeks.
I have to say it's my dream car.
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by Gloveperson
Those are some good times for the GT. STill makes me chuckle since my 94 ran a 13.9@101 stock though (1.9 60 footer).
As for the base car..an 02 Forumla is faster than an 05 GT for the same price (adjusted for inflation of course).
Still not an LS1 beater..or an LT1 killer but it didn't have to be to sell cars. And honestly..who the hell cares about stock cars. It will be an LS1 Killer if it starts runnin better times with just bolt-ons (same type of mods for each)
-Todd
As for the base car..an 02 Forumla is faster than an 05 GT for the same price (adjusted for inflation of course).
Still not an LS1 beater..or an LT1 killer but it didn't have to be to sell cars. And honestly..who the hell cares about stock cars. It will be an LS1 Killer if it starts runnin better times with just bolt-ons (same type of mods for each)
-Todd
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
The drivel to which you refer, is just as relevant - or more so (because it is accurate) - as this drivel:
I mean really. Let's cut to the chase. "Big Al" is a whiny little kid with a chip on his shoulder. If it doesn't say GM, it doesn't need to be on this planet. The 05 Mustang could run 12.2 bone stock, get 45 mpg, run on ****, cost $15k, look like your favorite super Model, and "Big Al" would still find a reason to hate it...simply because it says "Ford" and is called "Mustang.
By the same token, if there were a 2005 Camaro, it could run 16.1 sec 1/4 mile, get 10 mpg, require 104 octane, cost $55k, look like a Malibu Maxx, and "Big Al" would try to find a way to convince us that this was the best thing to come out of Detroit since.....well...it's just the best thing!
Guaranteed.
Of course, he comes here and post new stuff (plagerized from other sites) from time to time, so that makes him one of those "in the know". He's not an enthusiast in the least - rather, he is a little more than a GM apologist. A sad one at that.
There. No BS. No beating around the bush. And I apologize in advance to the folks that run this Forum.
I mean really. Let's cut to the chase. "Big Al" is a whiny little kid with a chip on his shoulder. If it doesn't say GM, it doesn't need to be on this planet. The 05 Mustang could run 12.2 bone stock, get 45 mpg, run on ****, cost $15k, look like your favorite super Model, and "Big Al" would still find a reason to hate it...simply because it says "Ford" and is called "Mustang.
By the same token, if there were a 2005 Camaro, it could run 16.1 sec 1/4 mile, get 10 mpg, require 104 octane, cost $55k, look like a Malibu Maxx, and "Big Al" would try to find a way to convince us that this was the best thing to come out of Detroit since.....well...it's just the best thing!
Guaranteed.
Of course, he comes here and post new stuff (plagerized from other sites) from time to time, so that makes him one of those "in the know". He's not an enthusiast in the least - rather, he is a little more than a GM apologist. A sad one at that.
There. No BS. No beating around the bush. And I apologize in advance to the folks that run this Forum.
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by PaperTarget
For the base model V8? A resounding yes.
I've said it time and time again, considering it is supposed to be the "base performance v8" in the mustang lineup, 13.6 or 13.8 is nothing to laugh at. Who knows, we may get consistent high 12's from a mid-performance trim special edition (mach or boss) and low to mid 12's from Cobra. Unlike our camaro's, mustangs offer multiple-powertrains and performance offering/trims unlike z28/SS where you get similarly fast cars with basically the same output. Due to Fords strategy of really seperating their trim levels with actual performance differences, it's no surprise that the GT got the lowest output and least performance.
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
Originally Posted by Gloveperson
If we are talking about stock times..these 13.6 seem to be the best time this car can get. The best for a LS1 is 12.7! That is a large difference. Still..the trap speed seems really poor for this car and gears/stall will not affect this car as much as they do in the F-body.
-Todd
-Todd
Sorry ... I couldn't resist.
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
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Re: Car & Driver 05 Mustang GT 13.8 @102
I just read Motor Trend's test of the new Stang, and they got 0-60 in 5.1, and a 1/4 mile of 13.6, pretty impressive, seeing that they got the same out of the GTO and it has 50 more hp than the Stang, i'd still take the GTO over it though!! 