You're probably right....so we have to decide for them.

 

Now hold on just a sec here!

There are plenty of V6 buyers that are also F-body enthusiasts. I myself bought my first Camaro in V6 form brand new in '98. At the time I couldn't afford a V8 and couldn't find a used one I liked. I discovered there were plenty of V6 F-body fans that care passionately about the F-body and performance. Some came together to form V6fbody.com dedicated to V6 owners. At it's peak it had thousands of members. It's still around, but with all the F-body boards and the ammulgamation of Camaroz28.com it went by the way side. But you see my point, I hope. They are out there as well......

 

You're right. There are lots of V6 enthusiasts. I stop by the V6 forum on this message board occasionally...and those guys are real enthusiasts.

 

STOP RIGHT THERE!

You nailed it! Most V6 enthusiasts would rather have a top dawg fully loaded SS if they could afford it.

If that's not the case, then I don't want those people having a serious voice on the next Camaro. They'd be bound to want crap real performance enthusiasts don't want or need... (like white face guages and alteeza tail lights.)

 

i do.

 

I'm pretty sure that even base cars will have power windows and door locks, standard.

 

like I said in another thread...
by making the base model better, you make every model better

 

Making a list of standard features is a job we need to do anyway.

I would remind EVERYONE that we'd all love to have 800hp in the base car, but it won't happen.

A MUCH better way to approach this is to look at the target cars and what THEY have as standard features and adjust accordingly.

Making a G35 the target for the base car is unreasonable due to the price difference - but a V6 Mustang or a Sebring IS NOT an unreasonable target.

Finally, understand that we are talking about the world's largest manufacturing corporation here, with a level of mass that no one else can match. GM can AND DOES routinely offer standard features that other manufacturers make you pay for - and GM does it at a lower price.

Our expectations should be realtively high, but within reason.

 

You're right there. Even our dream Berlinetta will be hard pressed to compete with G35....but it's a good benchmark.

 

The base model should be $1k-$1 1/2k lower than Ford,this will draw sales,especialy if the power rateings are close enough. I like the two motor ops. that have been mentioned (SC'ed V-6 & 6.0) these are a good start.
As far as wheels 17" are good,could have up grade packages,ie. wheel brake combos,or even combine them with suspention components, but make each package differant(wheel size & design),so you can tell them apart. When I bought my Z it was differant from the base model and the next year you couldn't tell them apart from a distance,so why buy a higher model,if they all look alike you can up grade it yourself.

T.

Opps almost forgot,the live axle is what made the pony car likable lets keep it,you cold offer IRS as an opion.

 

The live rear axle is definitely NOT what made a pony car "likeable". Good power in a practical yet sporty package is what made the 60's Camaros, Firebirds and Mustangs likeable. The live rear was there because 99% of cars in that day had them. That definitely isn't the case today.

 

You young'uns are spoiled with this IRS,and Traction control. lol!
your right 99% and posiblyanother .09% of cars had the live axle,the rest of the people drove Jags and a few other cars ,most of if not all where of foreign discent. However they were designed for curve mountain roads of Europe etc. The pony car was designed for one thing ,going from point A to point B as quickly as possible and you didn't need IRS for this. Don't get me wrong IRS is good and if they put it in a Camaro it would be ok ,but then it wouldn't be a true pony car,it would be a cheaper version of the Vette. "This is just my oppinion,I could be wrong".(dm)

T.