The Big One GMAC Gone
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by Buickman
You want me to debate someone who doesn't understand English?
Originally Posted by 1990 TGP
In others words, I'd love to discuss each point on how it would or wouldn't work right here, right now.
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by 1990 Turbo Grand Prix
Get it now? Love to see what others think both ways, what you think and what I think. You have many good points, others are so-so. Care to find out here and now?
There is only one reason not to post it - vested interest. He wants something out of it. If this were truly selfless, it would have been posted here a long, long time ago - and he would have earned a measure of respect by the act.
This isn't about GM. It's about him, and once it stops being about him and what he gets out of it, he'll no longer have any interest in it.
Just stop. You've made your point and you're right. Any more and it's like you're wrestling with a pig - you'll just get dirty and the pig likes the attention.
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Since when do companies or organizations discuss internal stategies in public access forums? If you think I'm making any money at this you're wrong. In fact it has cost me personally a tremendous amount of money and time. I do it because I care. Sure if someday it works, I'd like something for the effort, wouldn't you?
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by PacerX
TGP,
There is only one reason not to post it - vested interest. He wants something out of it. If this were truly selfless, it would have been posted here a long, long time ago - and he would have earned a measure of respect by the act.
This isn't about GM. It's about him, and once it stops being about him and what he gets out of it, he'll no longer have any interest in it.
Just stop. You've made your point and you're right. Any more and it's like you're wrestling with a pig - you'll just get dirty and the pig likes the attention.
There is only one reason not to post it - vested interest. He wants something out of it. If this were truly selfless, it would have been posted here a long, long time ago - and he would have earned a measure of respect by the act.
This isn't about GM. It's about him, and once it stops being about him and what he gets out of it, he'll no longer have any interest in it.
Just stop. You've made your point and you're right. Any more and it's like you're wrestling with a pig - you'll just get dirty and the pig likes the attention.
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by Buickman
Since when do companies or organizations discuss internal stategies in public access forums?
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by Buickman
Sure if someday it works, I'd like something for the effort, wouldn't you?
But hey, thanks for confirming that we're dealing with a snake-oil salesman - even though many of us knew that all along.
Last edited by PacerX; Jun 10, 2005 at 02:43 PM.
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by Buickman
As to The Plan, please remember the first twenty points are what was released. There are many more which include things like product and warranty. IMO we need to stay focused on the issues and stop quibbling amongst ourselves. Don't we all share a common desire to see GM succeed? It's true, The Plan's first steps were revealed to shareholders, however, that was a private meeting of the owners of GM, not a public forum.
For the life of me, I can't understand the difficulty in honoring a simple request. I joined this forum looking to improve on the ideas while sharing info with fellow GM supporters. Having been betrayed by a few inconsiderate individuals doesn't spoil my attitude or feelings about the many who have contributed. Honestly, part of me just wants to cut it loose and have everyone join in here and make progress. I'm sure the debate would be interesting. Problem is, too much would be accessible to others who are out to rob us of our strengths, which include the knowledge and imagination which I know makes The Return possible.
Buickman
For the life of me, I can't understand the difficulty in honoring a simple request. I joined this forum looking to improve on the ideas while sharing info with fellow GM supporters. Having been betrayed by a few inconsiderate individuals doesn't spoil my attitude or feelings about the many who have contributed. Honestly, part of me just wants to cut it loose and have everyone join in here and make progress. I'm sure the debate would be interesting. Problem is, too much would be accessible to others who are out to rob us of our strengths, which include the knowledge and imagination which I know makes The Return possible.
Buickman
I think you BELIEVE you have the answers to save GM. I think you're trying to be noble.
However, I don't think you are listening to those who DO understand this business.
(I learned a long time ago that I wasn't going to tell John Heinricy or Ted Robertson how to tune the suspension of the Z28 or SS...(not that they'd listen anyway!!!) ...'cause while I know Camaros.....I'm NOT an engineer.....so I'm best served by listening to what they have to say.....I suggest you do the same............)
As I told you before, most of what is in 'your plan' is dealer oriented ......and I think you'd be a tremendous asset to one of the large dealer chains. However, demanding that Rick Wagoner be sacrificed.....and carrying on about it in Wilmington, is, to me, unacceptable behavior.
(Even Evelyn told Rick he did a decent job!)
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by 1990 Turbo Grand Prix
I sent my review, BM, looking forward to your reaction.
I like that! I think I'm going to use that one from here on out.
Dear BM,
Thank for sharing all your wisdom, like a good BM would. Someday, hopefully, many other BM's will follow you down the path you're going.
People shouldn't struggle with a BM. They should just relax and let a BM do what it's going to do. Deal with a BM on it's own time, instead of pushing a BM out of it's comfort zone. Sure, BM's can make a mess if they're not in the right place at the right time, but not all BM's are as agreeable as you are!
Everyone knows that having a BM is a good thing, and for you, being a BM is just about the best thing that can happen.
Best regards,
PacerX
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by PacerX
"BM"
I like that! I think I'm going to use that one from here on out.
Dear BM,
Thank for sharing all your wisdom, like a good BM would. Someday, hopefully, many other BM's will follow you down the path you're going.
People shouldn't struggle with a BM. They should just relax and let a BM do what it's going to do. Deal with a BM on it's own time, instead of pushing a BM out of it's comfort zone. Sure, BM's can make a mess if they're not in the right place at the right time, but not all BM's are as agreeable as you are!
Everyone knows that having a BM is a good thing, and for you, being a BM is just about the best thing that can happen.
Best regards,
PacerX
I like that! I think I'm going to use that one from here on out.
Dear BM,
Thank for sharing all your wisdom, like a good BM would. Someday, hopefully, many other BM's will follow you down the path you're going.
People shouldn't struggle with a BM. They should just relax and let a BM do what it's going to do. Deal with a BM on it's own time, instead of pushing a BM out of it's comfort zone. Sure, BM's can make a mess if they're not in the right place at the right time, but not all BM's are as agreeable as you are!
Everyone knows that having a BM is a good thing, and for you, being a BM is just about the best thing that can happen.
Best regards,
PacerX
Pacer you make the best f'ing post out of anyone on this site!
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Re: The Big One GMAC Gone
Originally Posted by Buickman
Adventures of Buickman
Yes, it's Buickman, strange salesman from another planet...
Yes, it's Buickman, strange salesman from another planet...
Shameless salesman to the core...
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
OK...... to quote SpaceBalls, referencing 'MegaMaid'....
"We've gone from suck to blow!"
"We've gone from suck to blow!"
