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I was all for IRS on Camaro. In fact, I still am. But I'm not going to sit with fingers firmly in my ears and ignore the data that clearly shows the "poor ol', underengineered" SRA Mustang is getting the job done.
Maybe it's all just a cultural thing. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that you guys in Oz love bigger performance vehicles that are built like bank vaults and ride smooth and compliant while providing impressive handling characteristics considering their size. I've seen you on more than one occasion compare Camaro to Commodore and now, Mustang to Falcon. The problem with those comparisons is that our cars are pony cars, and there are (or should be) distinct differences in size and capability between our pony cars and the full-size sedans running around the Outback.
Maybe it's all just a cultural thing. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that you guys in Oz love bigger performance vehicles that are built like bank vaults and ride smooth and compliant while providing impressive handling characteristics considering their size. I've seen you on more than one occasion compare Camaro to Commodore and now, Mustang to Falcon. The problem with those comparisons is that our cars are pony cars, and there are (or should be) distinct differences in size and capability between our pony cars and the full-size sedans running around the Outback.
I've ridden in the back of a Lincoln Town Car and the kindest thoughts that sprung to mind at the time were, "I've ridden in the back of a Yaris with a better ride... bloody Americans!".
There is no excuse for Mustang in this day and age, particularly when there are already excellent IRS systems used on other vehicles by Ford themselves. Calling me ignorant doesn't count here because I've never ever heard an argument where SRA is clearly superior to IRS. Maybe that applies to the drag strip and to the 0.0001% who race their cars... but let's not get ahead of ourselves over one test where the Mustang clearly shines. It shines because the reviewers fail to drive it on surfaces where Camaro would show its obvious virtues - the place where most owners would use it.
Anyway, I can't wait for tests to begin on the open circuits. My view is the gap will be far narrower than that the drag strip.
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There is no way any stock Mustang can outrun a BMW let alone a Porsche.
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They were so much quicker that the sanctioning body changed the rules to make the stang slower.
Read up:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/12/f...peed-world-ch/
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This will easily best a stock M3/5 BMW on anything but a super tight road course.
Originally Posted by SSbaby
There is no excuse for Mustang in this day and age, particularly when there are already excellent IRS systems used on other vehicles by Ford themselves. Calling me ignorant doesn't count here because I've never ever heard an argument where SRA is clearly superior to IRS. Maybe that applies to the drag strip and to the 0.0001% who race their cars...
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Here is a hint. The Porcshes and BMWs were not stock either. And the Mustang still won the championship.
They were so much quicker that the sanctioning body changed the rules to make the stang slower.
Read up:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/12/f...peed-world-ch/
They were so much quicker that the sanctioning body changed the rules to make the stang slower.
Read up:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/12/f...peed-world-ch/
So stop the childish arguments right now.
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The Super Snake begs to differ.
This will easily best a stock M3/5 BMW on anything but a super tight road course.
This will easily best a stock M3/5 BMW on anything but a super tight road course.
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