Bob you know as well as anyone that that 5.0 V8 will take up more space and weigh more than the 7.0 LS7. So lets call it what it is a powerful V8 but no better than the GM small block.

 

I do? It will? What does the new Toyota engine weigh, and what are its dimensions? Also, please show the same for the LS7 so that we can compare. Also, I was comparing the power to the LS2 (6.2 - 5.0 = 1.2), not the LS7.

And btw...I never said it was better or worse than anything - I simply said it is impressive based on what it is supposed to produce.

Bob

 

You were impressed with the HP/Liter, admit it. Admission is the first step of the problem.

 

Sure I was - but that doesn't answer the questions that I posed to you, in response to your assertions above.

Bob

 

You aren't taking into consideration that by the time a new Supra hits the streets it will be head to head with a new "Z" (most say it will be called a 450Z) of 400-450HP out of a 4.5L V8 Infiniti engine.

Or, depending on how it's priced, its primary competition may be the GTR.

 

that toyota motor is also a ohc motor, which toyota has been very good at extracting power of, more so than ford has with their attempts in the past. Also, the previous supra was 35-45 big ones for the tt model depending on the year and options.

 

I bet you have to rev the snot out of that motor to make that power. Low torque, dohc small displacement motor...sounds like a rev queen. Its going to be a very refined smooth motor, I dont think it will dissappoint. I think some might actually prefer that kind of power, in contrast to the monster torque of the current Chevy small blocks. The Covette and Supra might go head to head in price and performance, but I think they are very very different cars. Im interested to see the C6 Z51 vs. Supra V8 comparos.

 

I remember going to the dealership and seeing the stickers for the Supra TT and it was above 60K! I believe it was 65K for the special edition or anniversary package or whatever it was but it was only a trim package. The next year, Toyota lopped 10k off the sticker of all Supras because they were selling so poorly. It still didn't help much.

 

that 65k was some serious dealer markup. Yes your right, toyota cut 10 grand off the price of the supra in 98 in a last ditch effort to sell more. also, I HIGHLY doubt the real car will look like that concept rendering, so until their are factory pics of the car i wouldnt pay any attention to the pics the mags are using.

 

The LS2 is a 6.0L motor, not a 6.2L.

Chris

 

You are absolutely correct. Kindly take .2 off the appropriate numbers.

Bob