'08 GTO news....with pic!
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by falchulk
A quad would make it neutered and disgraced? I could see if they made it look like a pink clown car with flower print on the seats...........You are very hostile regarding something you have no idea about how it would turn out.
For every ONE prospective buyer they lose because of "Quad Doors", I imagine they would gain TEN more because of having them. If they implement it right noone will hardly notice.
Hell, look at the Charger. If I was buying a so called "Muscle Car - which really has no meaning" it would come down between the GTO and Charger. (I agree with the Xeroxed Mustang statement - don't like it). I would probably choose the GTO, but I would put STRONG consideration into the Charger BECAUSE of the Quad Doors.
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Deep thought went into that highly intelligent statement, ROFL. 
But following your logic you just made a business case:
I for one would rather have "pussified" cars. If you have a car full of chicks most of them HATE climbing in the back seat of a Sports car, but love the car itself. So if you "pussified" it and make it easier for the girls, you might just get laid alittle more often...
But I'm married so I could care less anymore, lol. (
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But following your logic you just made a business case:
I for one would rather have "pussified" cars. If you have a car full of chicks most of them HATE climbing in the back seat of a Sports car, but love the car itself. So if you "pussified" it and make it easier for the girls, you might just get laid alittle more often...
But I'm married so I could care less anymore, lol. (
)
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IMO, if you hav quad doors, then you really need to give the backspace more room, to justify having them.. You do that, your going to mess around with the coupe lines..
As annoying as they are, I'm still all for long doors.. They look good.. But follows my line of though that the Camaro shouldn't be a volume seller, but a relatively low 30k unit seller(since its more aggressively styled and layed out). Unfortauntly, it seems like GM doesn't have enough money or willingless to do make car like that... Its a shame, cause a car like that would definantly prove that GM isn't just following trends, but will unapoligetically make cool cars.
As annoying as they are, I'm still all for long doors.. They look good.. But follows my line of though that the Camaro shouldn't be a volume seller, but a relatively low 30k unit seller(since its more aggressively styled and layed out). Unfortauntly, it seems like GM doesn't have enough money or willingless to do make car like that... Its a shame, cause a car like that would definantly prove that GM isn't just following trends, but will unapoligetically make cool cars.
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by Ken S
IMO, if you hav quad doors, then you really need to give the backspace more room, to justify having them.. You do that, your going to mess around with the coupe lines..
As annoying as they are, I'm still all for long doors.. They look good.. But follows my line of though that the Camaro shouldn't be a volume seller, but a relatively low 30k unit seller(since its more aggressively styled and layed out). Unfortauntly, it seems like GM doesn't have enough money or willingless to do make car like that... Its a shame, cause a car like that would definantly prove that GM isn't just following trends, but will unapoligetically make cool cars.
As annoying as they are, I'm still all for long doors.. They look good.. But follows my line of though that the Camaro shouldn't be a volume seller, but a relatively low 30k unit seller(since its more aggressively styled and layed out). Unfortauntly, it seems like GM doesn't have enough money or willingless to do make car like that... Its a shame, cause a car like that would definantly prove that GM isn't just following trends, but will unapoligetically make cool cars.
yeah, they seemd to move away from the niche car thing a few months ago.
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Is that really the basic premise for a GTO? Sounds alot like a Camaro/Mustang.
Admittedly, the Camaro/Firebird, Mustang/Cougar, Challenger/Cuda and Javelin followed that same formula. they were just a smaller
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by Chrome383Z
Deep thought went into that highly intelligent statement, ROFL.
But following your logic you just made a business case:
I for one would rather have "pussified" cars. If you have a car full of chicks most of them HATE climbing in the back seat of a Sports car, but love the car itself. So if you "pussified" it and make it easier for the girls, you might just get laid alittle more often...
But I'm married so I could care less anymore, lol. ()
But following your logic you just made a business case:
I for one would rather have "pussified" cars. If you have a car full of chicks most of them HATE climbing in the back seat of a Sports car, but love the car itself. So if you "pussified" it and make it easier for the girls, you might just get laid alittle more often...
But I'm married so I could care less anymore, lol. (
)
So unless your trying to avoid the wife giving you a black eye, I like my idea better.
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by falchulk
Look at the post from last week I think on the hemi rate in chargers. They arnt all fleet baby. You must live in a small town, the dealers around here have to mark up on just keep it on the lot for a demo.
The Charger is prime example of the wrong name for a car. Had they called it the Magnum sedan, much of the resentment to the car would not exist. I PERSONALLY would still not be interested in one, I don't lik the LX styling. But at least I (and many others) would not be disappointed in the car.
Likewise, I completely understand the need for a sedan that offers some performance. Just don't try and make the GTO or the Camaro that car. I have yet to see a quad coupe that hides the rear suicide doors. All versions that I have seen, have larger passenger compartments.
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by 91Z28350
Well, I think Denver is a cow town, but it is relatively large. I honestly have not seen the total sales rate for the Charger, so I really don't know how well or not they are selling. As for the take rate on the R/T versus the SXT, if I am not mistaken the difference is only a couple grand, thats a huge leap in performance for that amount.
The Charger is prime example of the wrong name for a car. Had they called it the Magnum sedan, much of the resentment to the car would not exist. I PERSONALLY would still not be interested in one, I don't lik the LX styling. But at least I (and many others) would not be disappointed in the car.
Likewise, I completely understand the need for a sedan that offers some performance. Just don't try and make the GTO or the Camaro that car. I have yet to see a quad coupe that hides the rear suicide doors. All versions that I have seen, have larger passenger compartments.
The Charger is prime example of the wrong name for a car. Had they called it the Magnum sedan, much of the resentment to the car would not exist. I PERSONALLY would still not be interested in one, I don't lik the LX styling. But at least I (and many others) would not be disappointed in the car.
Likewise, I completely understand the need for a sedan that offers some performance. Just don't try and make the GTO or the Camaro that car. I have yet to see a quad coupe that hides the rear suicide doors. All versions that I have seen, have larger passenger compartments.
Oh, my point was that fleet sales would be the v6, not the v8 . So that means the average joe is the one buying the hemi's.
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by Z284ever
[sarcasm] You must be on crack! The Monte Carlo has ALWAYS been a two door coupe. Ever since 1970. How can you have more than 2 doors on a Monte Carlo? In fact it used to weigh over 2 tons. What's the idea with these new lighter ones? Two tons gives you "presence", less gives you no respect. Plus my buddy told me more weight gives you more taction and better handling. Where's the velour interior and spoked hubcaps? WHERE!!!! If GM were smart, they'd come out with a 2 ton, 2 door Monte Carlo, with velour seats and spoked hubcaps....and if it came with an LS7 and auto (haven't learned to drive stick yet)....and sold it for $18,000......I'd buy one.....ummm...used. That is after I graduate HS and get a job. Either that or I'll get my sister's Tercel.
If anyone from GM is reading this:
1) I think you guys are morons.
2) I'd like a job as a product planner.
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Don't hold your breathe for any new variants of the Monte Carlo, Darth.
On the other hand, there are people within GM, that want to see a next gen GTO, and are struggling to create a business case. Let's give them some lattitude.
If anyone from GM is reading this:
1) I think you guys are morons.
2) I'd like a job as a product planner.
[/sarcasm]
Don't hold your breathe for any new variants of the Monte Carlo, Darth.
On the other hand, there are people within GM, that want to see a next gen GTO, and are struggling to create a business case. Let's give them some lattitude.
I think if someone was suggesting a quad coupe Camaro you would not be very happy. As I said before, you seem to have a very strict interpretation of Camaro history...yet when it comes to Pontiac you are very liberal.
A quad coupe GTO would get beat to hell in the press. Since it is obvious that Buick is getting the large RWD sedan and the G8 is axed, why not make a coupe version and call it GTO, then make a quad coupe and call it the Grand Prix. Seems like an inexpensive soultion to me. The Quad coupe won't steal sales from the Buick in the same showroom, and people who want a traditional GTO get what they want.
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Re: '08 GTO news....with pic!
Originally Posted by MotorCityNova572
how about this.For all the guys at GM.GO BACK TO OLD SCHOOL LOOKS AND OLD SCHOOL POWER
Old school power??? They's have to slow them down!
