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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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I believe what was shown at the recent press preview was lower, more agressive and had those rear doors.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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...had those rear doors.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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The Ion has those rear doors and you can barely even tell they are there. Heck, I was about to buy the Redline, until I realized that gas mileage was not as good as adertised, oil changes were around $100.00 and that you should run premium gas. Kind of changed my mind.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
I believe what was shown at the recent press preview was lower, more agressive and had those rear doors.


Sounds like it'll hit the target that the DCX guys were shooting for with the Charger. A four-door that looks like a coupe, but the GTO may actually look like a coupe.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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The Ion has those rear doors and you can barely even tell they are there. Heck, I was about to buy the Redline, until I realized that gas mileage was not as good as adertised, oil changes were around $100.00 and that you should run premium gas. Kind of changed my mind.

Oil changes around $100??????? Why?
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Oil changes around $100??????? Why?
Yeah... that's insane if it's true, but unless he means maybe a all around light service including oil change (maybe also changing the cabin filter, air filter, rotate/balance tires, etc...

The most expensive oil change I've heard of is 80 bucks or so at some BMW dealers, but some of those BMWs have an oil capacity 2-3 times larger than most cars and only require oil changes every 15k miles using the oil they use at the dealership. Plus they clean your car up along with the oil change.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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I don't remember if the salesman told me that, or if I read it online. I think I read it online. What I heard was that the oil filter is impossible to get to and that most mechanics will pull the supercharger(I think) off to get to the oil filter. Combine that with synthetic oil and there you go, $100.00. I don't remember all the details but it was something like that.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by General Z
What I heard was that the oil filter is impossible to get to and that most mechanics will pull the supercharger(I think) off to get to the oil filter.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Apparently Saturn recomends 7 qts of 5w-30 mobile 1 for the Ion Redline. I haven't seen it, but people are saying that the filter is hard to get to. It shouldn't require removing the supercharger though!

Here are a couple quotes on the subject from saturnfans.com

A oil change requires NOTHING to be removed. It is quite easy, for my first oil change I use a lift but I suspect that I could put the car on ramps and do it myself at home.

Get the requred socket size and extension reach under the hoses and it slides out really easily from the front/right side. Swap the filter and just slide it back in. It takes all of 2 minutes for this part once you do it once. I can post picture if you like.
It's really not that hard to get to. Just remove the bracket on the intercooler filler neck and reach under the supercharger. A long extension can get a socket on the filter cap from up top.

I've already done two oil changes on mine. It should be cake for anyone who is at least somewhat mechanically inclined.
What was the topic again? GTO??

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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41935

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54401

I could have lived with the oil and changed it myself. But, the killer was the gas. I don't know why I was thinking I could run regular. Heck, I could live with paying for premium if it got good enough mileage to justify it. But, I drive a LOT for work and this was going to be my new work car. Most people report getting under 30 mpg with this thing, a lot closer to 25.

I get 26 and sometimes a bit better from my 93 S10. And its paid for.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Ok, you can all damn me to Hell for saying so but....

http://motortrend.com/future/spied/1...peid0101_l.jpg

Crap that looks like a ponycar!
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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I like this angle better....

http://motortrend.com/future/spied/1...peid0103_z.jpg

Imagine a Chevrolet nose on this guys.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Looks like the rear 3/4 or at least the complete roof off of the G6 coupe to me. It's really not bad, but it also doesn't make me want to run out and buy one either.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Mitsubishi ! Thatīs what it reminds me of. And I donīt like Mitsubishis...
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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(Photo Illustration by Jim Dunne/Popular Mechanics)

Isn't Jim Dunne one of the most highly recognized spy photographers? Maybe this picture has more weight then we might think...



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