So how long did it take to get the kit from Bob?

 

This guy Bob should be the standard for every Vendor in regards to customer satisfaction. After I paypal'd the money to him, he 2 day FedEx'd the LTCC to me.

Other Customer care notes: I've emailed him some questions at like 10:22 pm and he replied 9 minutes later. Other emails have resulted in similarly quick replies.

I'm creating an install web page with pictures so that people can get a more visual indication of what/where/how.

 

Houston, we have LTCC!
Fired right up! Amazing what a difference there is if you wire it up correctly
Differences:
Idle - MUCH smoother
Cruising RPM - smoother
WOT - dunno. It's stinking raining here
Thanks to Bob Bailey for his excellent product and craftmanship. Oh, and I would be completely remiss if I didn't state the incredible customer support Bob has provided from the get go. Last week (Feb 23rd) I sent him an email at 10:22 pm (Sunday) asking what I had done wrong when the box didn't seem to work. He responded about 9 minutes later. I miswired the EST (Electronic Spark Control) wire due to a misunderstanding/misinterpretation of the wiring instructions. This fried a chip. Bob knew immediately what had happened when I told him the two diagnostic LED's (one's red, the other green) in the Box illuminated at 'key on' and they remained illuminated.(They are supposed to illuminated briefly at 'key on'). He told me to ship the box and harness back to him and he'd check it out. I priority mailed the box/harness to him. He got it, diagnosed it ,re-chipped it and put it on his car to test drive around for a day. He reported that it ran like a champ and he'd be shipping it back. I told him to tell me what I owed for the rechip and 2 day Fed Ex to get it back to me. He said, "no charge". I got the box/harness back in 2 days, FedEx. No charge. Unbelievable in this day and age of "F*ck you" customer service we're all, unfortunately, familiar with.
I drove the car to work today. Woot! I'm going to finish up a comprehensive install write up with pictures to help numbskulls like myself that might wire the "White" ESC incorrectly.
Thanks Bob!
David K. Wilson
'96 Z28 A3 355

 

so in the end, dave, how much did it cost you. I'm all for this setup. My car's bone stock, but i have a personal vendetta with my opti since it crapped out on me two weeks after I bought my car. Thanks for the info.

 

Dave, It was group purchase time at the time I bought mine. Contact Bob for current price level. The only other expense is the coils. I found a used set for $75. At the time I bought the LTCC it was $350 including shipping. I believe the 'normal' price is $399.
If you get a set of the opti boots you can probably use your old plug wires. I bought a new set of normal LT1 universal Taylors and cut to fit them. The opti boots snap right onto the LS1 coils.
I think you'll really like the LTCC. Not one hiccup since the install.
I have tremendous piece of mind with this product. I drive the car every day. To/from work. To/from taking my daughter to school. Activities most evenings. Grocery shopping, etc. Not a single 'burp' in the use of the car.

 

Back in 1998 Brian Bieller of LT1 Motorsports used the rear distributor to power his LT1 to record speeds at that time. He's a local boy that I know. He went with DFI for more accurate injector control. You can see pics of his engine with the distributor installed...

 

wow, that must have taken a lot of modification. I think that the only reason that this is an issue is because half of us don't have the extra $$ to do this stuff. With money, modification wouldn't be the issue, figuring out which mod was next would be.

 

Just a question for LTCC ignition owners

Will a standard LT1 ignition box work on this - say MSD 685 so I can keep my window switch/retard/dual rev limiters?

LMK,
Mike

 

No, I do not believe so. The LTCC does have it's own retard and rev limiter as an included feature though.

 

That's cool about the retard and rev limiter but I also require a window switch and a 2nd rev limiter for staging.



Mike

 

Why doesn't anyone think of adapting a crank trigger to this whole setup and just getting rod of the opti? Seems to me that a MSD crank trigger will work so much better than a opti.

A distributor is the way to go on the cheap, that with a MSD 7 programaable and you are already there.

This is a good idea guys, but it seems like reinventing the wheel.

MY choice would be a 2 computers, one like a MSD 7 for the spark and one for the fuel injectors. That makes it imediately adpatable to a SBC too.

Bret

 

Because you need a high and a low signal.
One for the spark control and one for the injector pulse.
From what I understand from reading this you need to be able to tell exactly where the crank is to fire the appropriate injector. The crank trigger doesn't do this for you...

Search for LTCC and you'll get a better understanding.
Mike

 

O.k. but a aftermarket EFI system will have the way you are going to deal with that. A crank trigger is not far attached from a reluctor wheel in the LS1.

Bret

 

But the crank reluctor on the LS1 isn't telling the injectors when to fire. The problem really seems to be an issue with using a crank trigger and sequential fuel injection -- with sequential, it's the position of the camshaft that is needed, not the crank. If you were to use an crank trigger to drive an external computer, it should work fine as long as it's batch fire.

Why are so many people scared of the OptiSpark? I haven't had one failure since getting rid of the high tension side and using it only for the optical section. I'm still using the original optical portion that has over 60,000 miles on it, with almost half of that without the high tension side. I see absolutely no good reason to get rid of it completely.

My biggest complaint about the crank trigger is it's a PITA to get set up correctly (my setup requires both the optical section of the OptiSpark and a crank trigger). The LTCC does away with that, and allows use of individual coils -- sounds like the mutt's nuts to me!

 

I installed the LTCC module/harness on my 93 MN6 Z28 a couple of weeks ago. One wire hooked up a little differently than on the 94-97 LT1's. The car is running good and I put over 100 miles on the road course at Moroso with the LTCC setup without any problems. I'm pleased with the new plug wire routing and I'll try to take a few pics this week. The car definately seems to run a little smoother and I wouldn't be surprised to pick up a mpg or two once I get a tank of gas through it under normal driving conditions. Bob is great to deal with and provided me with quick answers to any questions I had. A big thumbs up!