I know, as I already stated that. I was merely asking how much CF would save (in weight) over the aluminium hood. I agree that it wouldn't be cost effective.

 

I meant for that to mean that the cost savings would not offset the very few pounds saved.

 

i saw this company making a carbon fiber bumblebee style hood. this hood saved about 12-15 lbs off of the car.
when i put long tube headers on, i was shocked how much heavier the stock manifole with cats felt, compared to the long tube withoutthe cats. the exhaust is heavy also. i probably lost 20-25lbs from my car so far.

 

theres a carbon fiber hood rk sport makes. i was concidering getting it for mine and painting it, just to get the lightness in weight. theres also a company making carbon fiber trunks(from 24 to 5lbs!!!!). http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cust...bon-trunk.html

 

You couldnt be more wrong. GM is listening and they will fix the car to make it better, I guess we could just be a big pushover like you and accept what we are given and say nothing about so nothing will ever change. Yeh that will work well. A lighter car is also in GM's best interest because of fuel mileage. And learn how to read I said to eliminate 4 of the 6 airbags because that is what is required by law, unless it has changed to 4, and wouldnt cost GM a dime, actually I think the car would be cheaper.

 

Unless they go the Cobra R route with the z28 and pretty much market the car as a hardcore track-car with most of the equipment stripped out, all of the original safety equipment should remain. I think most of us would prefer it remain a street car that can be occasionally raced instead of a race-car that can be occasionally driven on the street. Safety isn't an area that should be compromised imo.

Wonder if Ford will do a Cobra R again???

 

Wasn't there a post about a Mustang Shelby GT500 owner being quoted $18,000 for a replacement CF hood... before Ford decided to drop the price... to a measly $9000?

Since the Camaro team has gone with the aluminum hood, I would say that GM are being reasonably weight conscious with this car (note: G8 has a steel hood). Other weight savings would almost cost an arm and leg... and if customers are queuing up for a $+50K Camaro stripper model, then GM must be totally ignoring this crowd.

Having said that, I wonder how much weight savings would be achieved if the Camaro's doors and trunk lid were also made from aluminum, not to mention some suspension components?

EDIT: Btw, I found this link on the number of aluminum parts used in some vehicles sold in Japan. What's interesting is the cars that use aluminum parts extensively aren't exactly light. But the most relevant car I thought was the RX-8 as I know it uses aluminum for quite a few of its panels.

http://www.aluminum.or.jp/jidosya/ja...TokyoMotor.htm

 

This was a Shelby GT500 Super Snake hood...done and charged outragously by SHELBY Corp.
NOT a Ford part at all.

 

Oh, I see. So Ford don't warranty the item at all?

 

They probably just warranty their in-house models (v6, GT, regular GT500).

 

The actual quote for the hood was $23,XXX.XX around 2 weeks ago
posted by the shop owner

It wasnt a Super Snake it was just a GT500KR that hit a deer .

 

Most realistic quote in this entire bitch-fest.

 

Somehow I doubt it, they have the various FR500 cars, which more or less replaced the R models with actual full on track cars.

It'd be nice to see GM do the same with the F5 and offer a host of track cars you could buy straight from GM to race with.

 

Again dude, do you actually think GM is gonna remove 4 of the 6 air bags from this car and lower it's safety rating, seriously, do you believe this? I did read what you wrote and understood it, but it was a ridiculous idea that would never see the light of day. Yes GM is listening, so what, do you honestly believe they can remove 200lb's from this car and still keep the price point? I can see GM trying to market your car, The new Z28, now with a lower safety crash rating but it handles so much better now and is cheaper. I'm sure the insurance companies would love that. I had a stripper 2002 1SC Camaro so I get where all the talk is coming from for a lightweight car but GM is looking at the big picture of marketing to the masses and not just a few hundred people that race their car on a track. How many stripper Camaro's were sold to the general public, not police sales? How many 1LE were sold the last few years of the 4th gen? Not many is the answer. If GM builds this 550hp Z28, the car will sell well and it will have a very good profit margin on it just like the GT500. I want GM to make money to stay in bussiness, not cater to a few hundred people. I ended up not being happy with the visibility out of the new Camaro plus I wanted something nimble so I bought a Cobalt SS but I still want the Z28 one day just hope they fix the visibility issues and quality control. The weight bothers me and I won't lie but there's no reason to keep harping on it because that's what GM gave us for the next few years and it's only gonna get heavier until a new platform comes out hopefully in the 6th gen.

 

Agreed. I tried to get a number about 15 pages back of how many people who don't like the current set up would buy one if their major hang up was fixed, and only 1 guy came forward and said he would. A few others complained about my choice of words in the question, which kind of makes me think that some people just like to complain .

They may not like the fact that it's not the optimal set up for their interests, and I think thats mostly in the name. The hard core traditionalists view the Z28 as it was in the first gen, but this Z28 is a modern day SS396, no other way to look at it (and about as far from the original Z28 formula as you can get.)

What I don't think that they're really processing the fact that there are a lot of folks out there w/ cash in hand that would love the oportunity to buy a factory supercharged Camaro (the only time its ever happened, and also it's HIGHLY likely to be the most powerful Camaro that has ever been, or ever will be built). It doesn't have to be a volume mover, it just has to pay for itself and make GM a little PROFIT.

I'm of the opinion now that GM should offer the following...
V6 and SS stay the same

Z28 as an SS w/ a "track pack" or "Z51" or whatever you want to call a suspension/gearing/tire package

ZL1 as what the Z28 is planned to be.