View Poll Results: I feel that the following above MSRP is fair and is what I am willing to pay:
NOTHING above MSRP
132
80.98%
No more than $100 above MSRP
4
2.45%
No more than $500 above MSRP
9
5.52%
No more than $1,000 above MSRP
9
5.52%
More than $1,000 above MSRP
1
0.61%
OTHER (Specify in reply below)
8
4.91%
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How much above MSRP is fair & reasonable? How much above MSRP are you willing to pay?
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I wish GM would do something like what Nissan is doing with the GT-R...
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124681
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124681
the automaker told Inside Line it has put a formal program in place to help prevent price gouging on the supercar, which starts at $69,850 for the base model.
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Why would I pay anything more??? 
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Has he said that somewhere? While Chris and I are pretty emphatic about it, I didn't think Scott can say things like that due to his position within GM and the relationship it enforces. I speculate that he might think it often, though.
You'd be surprised, many would which I why I created this poll.
You'd be surprised, many would which I why I created this poll.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...51#post4939251
Some thoughts:
There are just under 4,300 Chevrolet dealers in the United States -- MOST of them are very good dealers -- there are some bad ones. If someone asks for a price over MSRP -- JUST SAY NO -- (and I suspect a few of you will add a couiple of "modifiers" before the 'NO!") -- and walk out.
We will be preaching to the dealers WHY they shouldn't add the additional markup -- but (listen up!) WE CANNOT FORBID THEM TO DO SO.
And -- keep in mind that the same prediction was made with Mustang -- and yes, a few dealers tried this. -- but the majority did not -- and the Mustang has been successful by anyones' standards. Don't try to compare the SSR to the Mustang -- simply because the SSR was a limited production vehicle from the start......Mustang was not and Camaro will not.
Further - someone made the comparision to Mustang and Challenger - (people will get upset and buy a Mustang or Challenger) -- well, guess what? A high percentage of dealers who own Chrysler and Ford stores also own Chevrolet Stores (and Toyota and Honda as well) -- but- there are a substantially larger number of Chevrolet dealerships -- in the case of Chrysler and Toyota -- about three times as many! (so you have a larger choice of who to go to -- and you can ;just say no' to a lot of stores if you have to.)
Ladies and Gentlemen: You can be assured that Chevrolet and GM understand this issue - -you can be assured that the last thing we want is for you to pay over MSRP. We want you to be enthusiastic owners of our products. (there ARE limits.....)
There are just under 4,300 Chevrolet dealers in the United States -- MOST of them are very good dealers -- there are some bad ones. If someone asks for a price over MSRP -- JUST SAY NO -- (and I suspect a few of you will add a couiple of "modifiers" before the 'NO!") -- and walk out.
We will be preaching to the dealers WHY they shouldn't add the additional markup -- but (listen up!) WE CANNOT FORBID THEM TO DO SO.
And -- keep in mind that the same prediction was made with Mustang -- and yes, a few dealers tried this. -- but the majority did not -- and the Mustang has been successful by anyones' standards. Don't try to compare the SSR to the Mustang -- simply because the SSR was a limited production vehicle from the start......Mustang was not and Camaro will not.
Further - someone made the comparision to Mustang and Challenger - (people will get upset and buy a Mustang or Challenger) -- well, guess what? A high percentage of dealers who own Chrysler and Ford stores also own Chevrolet Stores (and Toyota and Honda as well) -- but- there are a substantially larger number of Chevrolet dealerships -- in the case of Chrysler and Toyota -- about three times as many! (so you have a larger choice of who to go to -- and you can ;just say no' to a lot of stores if you have to.)
Ladies and Gentlemen: You can be assured that Chevrolet and GM understand this issue - -you can be assured that the last thing we want is for you to pay over MSRP. We want you to be enthusiastic owners of our products. (there ARE limits.....)
Last edited by 5thgen69camaro; Feb 17, 2008 at 08:41 PM.
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We have people willing to get insider spy shots. Once this car is finalized and we know the specs, I'm sure the next big question is going to be what the dealers actually pay for these cars.
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I've always heard it to be fair for a few hundred dollars over "invoice", where MSRP falls in the mix is where I'll have to wait and see.
But I think ?, usually, the MSRP takes into account a fair profit.
So, I'll say No, for now.
But I think ?, usually, the MSRP takes into account a fair profit.
So, I'll say No, for now.
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Yeah Scott has mentioned it SOMEWHERE a time or two...
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...51#post4939251
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...51#post4939251
In fact, I feel very confident about the whole situation, which is why you don't see me complaining on this site. However...if dealers make the unfortunate decision to price gouge well above MSRP...I am afraid that I'll have to wait on my dreams of owning, not only a brand new car for the first time or a brand new Camaro, but the latest and greatest iteration of the Camaro breed. If a dealer begs...I'm not about to throw them a bone...
So, let's hope that there are enough dealers out there that are willing to sell for MSRP! 
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Yeah Scott has mentioned it SOMEWHERE a time or two...
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...51#post4939251
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...51#post4939251
BTW, this poll is turning out very close to what I had anticipated. I just wanted to see if there are some out there who are simply willing to pay more because they just want the car bad enough.
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I wish GM would do something like what Nissan is doing with the GT-R...
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124681
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124681
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My point is...I want the Camaro badly...very badly, but I won't kill myself trying to pay for it.
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My 4th Gen Convertible, I waited until I could find a dealer that would sell me a 6 speed Convertible at sticker, and then I signed. It took until the end of the year 1994. And then, only if I ordered my car, not one off the lot.
My company also gets the supplier discount, and something you guys need to remember is, the dealers are NOT REQUIRED to sell it to you at supplier pricing. It is their choice. Trust me, the Camaro will not be going for supplier pricing for a while. I had to pay sticker for my Solstice, as I could not find a dealer that would accept my Supplier Discount, and I spent close to 5 months calling every dealer one after the other listed on Pontiacs website. I know some guys were able to get it done because they were friends with the dealer owner, or whatever. Me, it will depend on how much I like the car, and what it is priced at. To me, it is about value in MY personal eyes.
My company also gets the supplier discount, and something you guys need to remember is, the dealers are NOT REQUIRED to sell it to you at supplier pricing. It is their choice. Trust me, the Camaro will not be going for supplier pricing for a while. I had to pay sticker for my Solstice, as I could not find a dealer that would accept my Supplier Discount, and I spent close to 5 months calling every dealer one after the other listed on Pontiacs website. I know some guys were able to get it done because they were friends with the dealer owner, or whatever. Me, it will depend on how much I like the car, and what it is priced at. To me, it is about value in MY personal eyes.