Camaro prototype without any camoflage!! Hollllly..
Also remove the fact that in that case, we all know what a '69 Camaro is supposed to look like, no matter what the poor quality picture will show.
I guess all the people right now that are jumping to mustang will be the people in a year and a half making the excuse, "well mine makes more hp per cubic inch" as we tell the stories about how our camaro just smoked their 2 year old gt.
Here's how I feel. I'm shown a 100% beautiful concept. I fall madly in love with it. I OBSESS over it to the point that my wife is sick of hearing about me getting the new Camaro. THEN I see this picture

I loved the concept

So what I feel like is I fell in love with a model and now I'm being told I have to take her plane, less shapely sister. Will I still buy the convertible? 95% yes. (I'm reserving the 5% in case when I see it and hate what they have done to my beloved Camaro, 5% isn't much)


for those that are saying I'm blind look for yourself. The hips are 80% GONE. They need to feed this car a sammich.

I loved the concept

So what I feel like is I fell in love with a model and now I'm being told I have to take her plane, less shapely sister. Will I still buy the convertible? 95% yes. (I'm reserving the 5% in case when I see it and hate what they have done to my beloved Camaro, 5% isn't much)


for those that are saying I'm blind look for yourself. The hips are 80% GONE. They need to feed this car a sammich.
Last edited by christianjax; Dec 18, 2007 at 01:56 PM.
and then when those 6 year old mustangs are rubbin it in the face of new camaro owners how their old stuff is beating the new stuff, they will be making the excuse "well mine makes more hp n/a."
I wouldn't say you're blind. The hips were slimmed down but are still there. You should compare the hips of the spy shot to the hips on the vert concept. They are similar. We were also told that the vert resembled a closer to production version.
i bet if we painted the concept car this flat white, put the same black camon on front and back.. put it in the same room with the same lighting, used the same terrible camera from the same exact ange.. i bet it would look nearly identical to this photo
christianjax, I certainly see your point and while I wish the spy pic was better from the angles shown it cetainly looks like the rear hip is not as wide by maybe an inch.
Do you have pics of the orange convert to show also as some have said the body is different there. Heck why not get pics of Bumblebee too and maybe we can find when and where GM slimmed the car down in the back.
Thanks for the pic Silverado C-10 that's the only spy pic that showed any kind of true side angle is the rear 3/4 of the Camo'd Camaro on the Ausie road. In that pic the side looked like it retained most of the rear sculpting the silver concept has. But also more telling is the overall width of the covered rear end showing quite a bit of mass that seemed to follow the concept body.
Do you have pics of the orange convert to show also as some have said the body is different there. Heck why not get pics of Bumblebee too and maybe we can find when and where GM slimmed the car down in the back.
Thanks for the pic Silverado C-10 that's the only spy pic that showed any kind of true side angle is the rear 3/4 of the Camo'd Camaro on the Ausie road. In that pic the side looked like it retained most of the rear sculpting the silver concept has. But also more telling is the overall width of the covered rear end showing quite a bit of mass that seemed to follow the concept body.
no offense but you are seriously on crack
(give me some maybe I'll be happier)
Seriously though, we all agree that the hips from the silver concept are NOT on the white car. Yes, the hips are there, but they have seriously been reduced. Reduced enough to make a noticeable difference, in fact reduced enough to change the entire feel of the car. The aggression is gone. Maybe to the average joe's eye the hips look the same but as a designer its so painfully obvious the hips on the uncamo'd car is DRASTICALLY different from the concept. Although there may be some detail that is lost in the photo so I won't pass judgment until I see better pictures.
As for the camo'd car above the hips and detail actually appear to be there and looks to be less than the concept and more than the uncamo'd car. So as I've said before I hope and think the uncammo'd car is a base model and the camo'd car above is a V8 with hips and hopefully it still has that aggressive look we all fell in love with.
(give me some maybe I'll be happier)
Seriously though, we all agree that the hips from the silver concept are NOT on the white car. Yes, the hips are there, but they have seriously been reduced. Reduced enough to make a noticeable difference, in fact reduced enough to change the entire feel of the car. The aggression is gone. Maybe to the average joe's eye the hips look the same but as a designer its so painfully obvious the hips on the uncamo'd car is DRASTICALLY different from the concept. Although there may be some detail that is lost in the photo so I won't pass judgment until I see better pictures.As for the camo'd car above the hips and detail actually appear to be there and looks to be less than the concept and more than the uncamo'd car. So as I've said before I hope and think the uncammo'd car is a base model and the camo'd car above is a V8 with hips and hopefully it still has that aggressive look we all fell in love with.
Last edited by toegead93; Dec 18, 2007 at 05:17 PM.
Don't forget the flying buttress thingys off the back window hide A LOT as well. The car almost looks like a hatchback 
And while I can understand GM having a different front fascia and hood for this car to differentiate a V-6 from V-8, I would not understand having TWO different rear sections of the car (meaning rear 1/4 panels.) It seems pointless and not cost effective. I could understand a different rear bumper area with different taillights (think cobalt) but not different rear quarters. UNLESS the V-6 quarters will somehow match the convertible, which again, doesn't seem cost effective to make them different??? My point, if the "hips" are on the V-8, they'll be on the V-6.

And while I can understand GM having a different front fascia and hood for this car to differentiate a V-6 from V-8, I would not understand having TWO different rear sections of the car (meaning rear 1/4 panels.) It seems pointless and not cost effective. I could understand a different rear bumper area with different taillights (think cobalt) but not different rear quarters. UNLESS the V-6 quarters will somehow match the convertible, which again, doesn't seem cost effective to make them different??? My point, if the "hips" are on the V-8, they'll be on the V-6.
Last edited by Silverado C-10; Dec 18, 2007 at 05:19 PM.
After a little quick balance and sharpness work, this shows the car's lines much better, specifically the hips. Of course, the lighting and picture quality was terrible to start with, so this is the best I could do. I might get better results with a more powerful program. Maybe I will try later tonight.
Haha, it also give it the tinted window effect, which makes it look much better.
Haha, it also give it the tinted window effect, which makes it look much better.


