I actually agree with that. I went back and read that head-to-head article and looked some owner posting times on stock GT500s. I would call the 2007 GT500 vs 2007 C6 an even race.



I think there's a lot more in the KR tune than just peak hp.

And the stock tires on the 2010 are a big step up from the '09. The F1 Supercar tires are a major reason the KR handles so much better than the GT500. And why it can launch so much harder.

The 2010 GT500 is the KR drivetrain, with 3.55s instead of 3.73s. While MMFF does produce insane ETs, the mph can't be faked or attributed to E. Smith. The HP, the gearing and tires are there to equal what they did.

I just think we're going to see a whole lotta low 12s@119-120 from owners posting time slips later this year.


And I like the C6 a whole lot. The Z06 is the best sports car in the world.

I just hope that we can all agree that the title of this thread is completely ridiculous.

 

I completely agree. Making the 2010 GT500 a great match for the LS3 powered Corvette. As it should be considering they cost about the same.

100% agree. It should read reverse, "Camaro SS aiming at 2010 GT500". Then it would be correct and I think we could all agree on that.

The Camaro team surely tried its darnedest to get the Camaro to challenge the GT500 in performance and maybe even beat it in a few. All for a price tag of over $12k less, presumably in an attempt to make the Camaro the best bang for the buck. We should see if they were successful in the coming months!!!

 

its going to be interesting.

 

Well in handling I'd agree. And in straight line, the SS will be very close to a stock 2007-2009 GT500.

Well, let's just wait and see what comes out in a few short months. I am sure we're going to some juicy head-to-head reviews. SS vs GT500. C6 vs GT500.

 

im looking forward to some of the articles but you know alot of those articles are just rediculous. they always like to compare a lesser caragainst a more dominant car. i can see in the future, an article of the new camaro vs ferrari 599gtb. or something stupid like that. it would be a very interesting article to see the new gt500 vs the ss. knowing it wont win the battle but the editors sometime like to chose the lesser of the vehicles because of cost and $- hp.

 

Cool.

Another thing to consider in the GM 5.3 offering's favoris that when used with E85 (if applicable) the current 5.3 is rated at 326/350, all in a package MUCH smaller and lighter than a Ford 5.4. I tried to help a guy at work change the spark plugs on his '07 F150 recently and was shocked at how little space there was under the hood.

 

The current 5.4 is rated at 320/390 on E85.

Agree completely that the 5.3 is a much smaller, lighter package (a good thing indeed!). Would add that I think the current GM V8 engine family is far superior to the modular in most ways.

 

The GT 500 is a great car. They can be bought for $40K here. A good friend of mine owns one and he also owns a corvette. It really is and has been more like their corvette. The camaro will be a great car and should be cheaper in price than the GT 500. It probably will be slower by some margin but it is to be expected at the price differential.

The one car in the same price category we dont compare is the new 370Z. This car handles well and puts down great performance numbers at a comparable price. It seems to do much better than the new mustang GT. We are lucky enough to have some great cars to choose from and we should enjoy them while we can. I own a camaro SS but I am not so narrow minded to think it is the only car built that is any good. Each car has its place for each person. Yes I have raced my car at the track and I can tell you it is hard to make a 500 hp car hook on the street for a short distance and many times a low hp car will beat it because of that.

These cars are very fast cars. We should all enjoy them for what they are.

 

One of the most obvious differences between any Vette and the GT500 is in the marketing ideas; We CAN buy a vette, anytime, anywhere, and that is a good thing.

FORD dealers are just idiots who jack up the GT500 sticker by $10,000 and don't seem to care if they sell them or not.

Those cars (FORDS) are just not going to be collector's items and FORD should get with it and build them en mass, just to keep money flowing. The suggested prices are pretty reasonable.

Maybe this economy will teach them a lesson.

 

Wow, just a Ford problem huh?

 

The engine was tucked under the cowl? A buddy of mine faced the same problem, it seemed silly to me to design the vehicle that way, but I guess its a non issue when alot of people have their vehicles serviced by the dealer or a mechanic?

 

I had the pleasure of riding in and driving a GT500 this past weekend. (my brother in-law is in the market and we took one for a test drive). The car is NO slouch. It feels quite bit faster than any recorded 0-60 times that I've seen for it. And I'm not new to speed. My 99 T/A will do the sprint to 60 in around 4.8 and I also ride an 08 Busa which will do it in around 2 flat. So that being said, the Camaro SS has a lot to live up to just to keep up with a GT500. But I agree with what has been posted (haven't read the whole thread yet) That the Camaro SS and Shelby GT500 are not in the same niche. Although at least two dealers in town that are willing to forget their $20,000 markup on them to make a deal. Too bad it's still 48k. I'd be tempted if I won the lottery to add one to my fantasy stable.

 

no kidding their not in the same "niche". ones got a supercharger and is thousands more. but man isnt it going to be funny when those numbers come out for the camaro and we see how it actually does against the "big bad gt500!"

 

Not running 13.2 you won't.

 

Okay, finally read the whole thread. Wow. Where to start?
While I understand where 2010 5thgen is coming from, his bias is obscuring reality a bit.
Sure if the chevy used a supercharger it would surpass the GT500. But Ford has ALWAYS brought a knife to the gun fight. While V8 Chevy's used 327's and 350's the Mustang used 289's. Ford finally started using bigger engines in the late 60's in answer to the Camaro and they still were out powered. Then all through the 80's and 90's the Camaro's were kicking sand in the Mustang's face with more power and bigger motors. BUT the Mustang continued to outsell. Go figure.(never understood that one).
None of us has driven the 2010 SS yet, but like I said previously, I have driven a GT500 within the past week. I was VERY impressed with the endless rush of acceleration. I did a rolling start (highway onramp) and didn't try to launch it from a dig so I have no idea how well it would launch. (not well from what I read) But from a roll, it was a BEAST. I would be tickled pink if my SS accelerated as well. (without even making supercharger whine)
I don't love Mustangs, I've always owned Camaros and Firebirds. About 6 or 7 of each. I've never owned a Ford, and until last week, never even really considered it except for a brief battle with insanity back in '06 when I looked at the Mustang and bought a Hemi Charger instead. BUT, if money were no object. I would gladly own a Shelby GT500 OR a KR. I respect what they are and what they can do. But for the money I DO have, the SS Camaro is for me.