Frontal shot of new Camaro......
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Please integrate that antenna into the back window, pass mirror or something. also can the gills be functional at all? If not theyre fine.
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Right you are... to a great extent.
I got extra lucky at one point when I had the lucky pleasure of having the fellow that does many < maybe most > of the calibration work on V-8 motors for GM stop by my house for a look at my Z06 to review a couple of things I had noted in Florida heat and humidity. < GM has/had a test area a couple of hours from my house >
He came by in a "mule" and accompanied by a chase car/driver with telemetry goodies. < If I seem to be wandering, there is a point here.. >
IAT temps "rule the roost" when it comes to timing advance, air-fuel, etc.
< so does cat overtemp but that's for a different thread. > Nonetheless he showed me on the computer screen how it is.
CAI doesn't help much if the vehicle is static, such as sitting at a light/tree... however, even a cold air mod such as the last gen Corvette Z06 front fascia screens drop the temps at the IAT sensor temps much faster than if the screens were closed like the C5 coupe and 'vert.
I have found that the gold plated foil < think metallic contact paper > used in roadracing DOES retard IAT temps rising if the vehicle is at a static state as well as mitigating the heat transfer from the buildup of under hood temp transfer under roadraing conditions.
In conjunction with CAI/airflow smoothing mods, the timing retard and richening protections don't insinuate themselves nearly as much.
I use the stuff myself, which may be strictly anecdotal regarding what I have seen on the computer readouts, but I also have noted that every Corvette roadracing team I interface with use it as well. They don't agree on the pre-throttle body plumbing... but they all agree on this stuff.
As with many things, this might be an example of using multiple solutions to resolve one issue.
I got extra lucky at one point when I had the lucky pleasure of having the fellow that does many < maybe most > of the calibration work on V-8 motors for GM stop by my house for a look at my Z06 to review a couple of things I had noted in Florida heat and humidity. < GM has/had a test area a couple of hours from my house >
He came by in a "mule" and accompanied by a chase car/driver with telemetry goodies. < If I seem to be wandering, there is a point here.. >
IAT temps "rule the roost" when it comes to timing advance, air-fuel, etc.
< so does cat overtemp but that's for a different thread. > Nonetheless he showed me on the computer screen how it is.
CAI doesn't help much if the vehicle is static, such as sitting at a light/tree... however, even a cold air mod such as the last gen Corvette Z06 front fascia screens drop the temps at the IAT sensor temps much faster than if the screens were closed like the C5 coupe and 'vert.
I have found that the gold plated foil < think metallic contact paper > used in roadracing DOES retard IAT temps rising if the vehicle is at a static state as well as mitigating the heat transfer from the buildup of under hood temp transfer under roadraing conditions.
In conjunction with CAI/airflow smoothing mods, the timing retard and richening protections don't insinuate themselves nearly as much.
I use the stuff myself, which may be strictly anecdotal regarding what I have seen on the computer readouts, but I also have noted that every Corvette roadracing team I interface with use it as well. They don't agree on the pre-throttle body plumbing... but they all agree on this stuff.
As with many things, this might be an example of using multiple solutions to resolve one issue.
As an FYI, my logging was all done with an Autotap tied to a PDA. This allowed me to monitor most computer inputs real time, and also log most parameters.
Anyway....as stated....good read!
Bob
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"Cold air intake" (CAI) is certainly more proper than "ram air", though I understand the marketing by calling it the latter.
Of note, in my testing/data logging (obviously on other vehicles), I've found that CAI's typically don't reduce the IAT reading near the TB much at all. Perhaps a little, and perhaps under certain circumstances, but not across the board. Still....so long as the opening is actually open, I'm fine with it (personal opinion).
Concur. IMHO, straightening out the airflow is the most important part.
Bob
Of note, in my testing/data logging (obviously on other vehicles), I've found that CAI's typically don't reduce the IAT reading near the TB much at all. Perhaps a little, and perhaps under certain circumstances, but not across the board. Still....so long as the opening is actually open, I'm fine with it (personal opinion).
Concur. IMHO, straightening out the airflow is the most important part.
Bob
My 3800 SC gained 15 HP with just an intake and filter. Plus it sounds cooler now.
I think that is all GM is doing with the from mount intakes as it is cooler and easier not to bend the intake as much as if you will note ont he new ZR-1. it is much more direct vs what wh had on the last Camaro SS hood intake.
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The lady in the picture isn't Scotts mom. If you go back to the wide shot, on page 8 I think it is, I'm on the right side w/ the dark red shirt and tan jacket, Mom Settlemire (her hair anyway) is over my right shoulder.