Frontal shot of new Camaro......
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Okay, it is time for me to spill the beans.
As many of you know, Scott and I have meetings once in a while to talk about things, and if you know that then you also know that I am very tight lipped about things as I am only as good as my word.
However, I feel I also owe it to you, my site community members, some important information about the car that I was sworn to secrecy not to reveal. This information may very well immediately dissolve my partnership with Chevrolet, the Camaro team, and my friendship with Scott.
Here goes...taking a deep breath....
Even though it has been repeated by many people in GM many times that weight is a definite concern for this car...the truth of the matter is...the 2010 Camaro will weigh just a tad over what an average military tank does. We are talking dry weight and without ammunition, of course.
Yes, my friends...it will weigh several tons and we will all need to carry a map of roads that we can drive it on without cracking the pavement. Say goodbye to performance and economy, that is not what this new generation Camaro is all about.
It will also be 10 feet tall and 22 feet wide, not including the standard curb feelers.
Everyone happy now?
Please forgive me Scott, Cheryl and John.
As many of you know, Scott and I have meetings once in a while to talk about things, and if you know that then you also know that I am very tight lipped about things as I am only as good as my word.
However, I feel I also owe it to you, my site community members, some important information about the car that I was sworn to secrecy not to reveal. This information may very well immediately dissolve my partnership with Chevrolet, the Camaro team, and my friendship with Scott.
Here goes...taking a deep breath....
Even though it has been repeated by many people in GM many times that weight is a definite concern for this car...the truth of the matter is...the 2010 Camaro will weigh just a tad over what an average military tank does. We are talking dry weight and without ammunition, of course.
Yes, my friends...it will weigh several tons and we will all need to carry a map of roads that we can drive it on without cracking the pavement. Say goodbye to performance and economy, that is not what this new generation Camaro is all about.
It will also be 10 feet tall and 22 feet wide, not including the standard curb feelers.
Everyone happy now?
Please forgive me Scott, Cheryl and John.
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then dont buy one...problem solved
Its ok to think the car looks great, I promise.
Did you ever see the concept in person? I thought it too looked huge in all the pictures until I saw it with my own eyes. We have seen it parked next to mustangs, and it looked smaller than them too.
Its ok to think the car looks great, I promise.
Did you ever see the concept in person? I thought it too looked huge in all the pictures until I saw it with my own eyes. We have seen it parked next to mustangs, and it looked smaller than them too.
He stood right up against it...along with a thousand of the rest of us....so I don't get why less than an inch taller, a little narrower production car has him denying what he saw with his own two eyes...and he's an eye doctor to boot!?!!?!
I keep thinking that "someone" has given him certian dimensions (however wrong they might be) and now he's convinced himself that what he SAW isn't what he wants to see now.
Personally, I think driving that POS BMW has him all confused on what he believes... j/k
Last edited by Doug Harden; Jan 11, 2008 at 08:37 PM.
this thread is great in so many ways
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You see......this is what I don't get.....Charlie was THERE at the unveiling....I have the pictures!
He stood right up against it...along with a thousand of the rest of us....so I don't get why less than an inch taller, a little narrower production car has him denying what he saw with his own two eyes...and he's an eye doctor to boot!?!!?!
I keep thinking that "someone" has given him certian dimensions (however wrong they might be) and now he's convinced himself that what he SAW isn't what he wants to see now.
Personally, I think driving that POS BMW has him all confused on what he believes... j/k
He stood right up against it...along with a thousand of the rest of us....so I don't get why less than an inch taller, a little narrower production car has him denying what he saw with his own two eyes...and he's an eye doctor to boot!?!!?!
I keep thinking that "someone" has given him certian dimensions (however wrong they might be) and now he's convinced himself that what he SAW isn't what he wants to see now.
Personally, I think driving that POS BMW has him all confused on what he believes... j/k
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Okay, it is time for me to spill the beans.
As many of you know, Scott and I have meetings once in a while to talk about things, and if you know that then you also know that I am very tight lipped about things as I am only as good as my word.
However, I feel I also owe it to you, my site community members, some important information about the car that I was sworn to secrecy not to reveal. This information may very well immediately dissolve my partnership with Chevrolet, the Camaro team, and my friendship with Scott.
Here goes...taking a deep breath....
Even though it has been repeated by many people in GM many times that weight is a definite concern for this car...the truth of the matter is...the 2010 Camaro will weigh just a tad over what an average military tank does. We are talking dry weight and without ammunition, of course.
Yes, my friends...it will weigh several tons and we will all need to carry a map of roads that we can drive it on without cracking the pavement. Say goodbye to performance and economy, that is not what this new generation Camaro is all about.
It will also be 10 feet tall and 22 feet wide, not including the standard curb feelers.
Everyone happy now?
Please forgive me Scott, Cheryl and John.
As many of you know, Scott and I have meetings once in a while to talk about things, and if you know that then you also know that I am very tight lipped about things as I am only as good as my word.
However, I feel I also owe it to you, my site community members, some important information about the car that I was sworn to secrecy not to reveal. This information may very well immediately dissolve my partnership with Chevrolet, the Camaro team, and my friendship with Scott.
Here goes...taking a deep breath....
Even though it has been repeated by many people in GM many times that weight is a definite concern for this car...the truth of the matter is...the 2010 Camaro will weigh just a tad over what an average military tank does. We are talking dry weight and without ammunition, of course.
Yes, my friends...it will weigh several tons and we will all need to carry a map of roads that we can drive it on without cracking the pavement. Say goodbye to performance and economy, that is not what this new generation Camaro is all about.
It will also be 10 feet tall and 22 feet wide, not including the standard curb feelers.
Everyone happy now?
Please forgive me Scott, Cheryl and John.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoOOOooooooOOoooo's!
Pre-pro looks BETTER than the concept, consider me very impressed. I am still concerned about weight (I always am, on any car...just the way the industry has been going you know?) but Scott certainly was telling the truth about the looks. I can only assume he's telling the truth on weight. Count me among the eventual owners once I'm all finished up here with school (omg ALMOST DONE)
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You see......this is what I don't get.....Charlie was THERE at the unveiling....I have the pictures!
He stood right up against it...along with a thousand of the rest of us....so I don't get why less than an inch taller, a little narrower production car has him denying what he saw with his own two eyes...and he's an eye doctor to boot!?!!?!
I keep thinking that "someone" has given him certian dimensions (however wrong they might be) and now he's convinced himself that what he SAW isn't what he wants to see now.
Personally, I think driving that POS BMW has him all confused on what he believes... j/k
He stood right up against it...along with a thousand of the rest of us....so I don't get why less than an inch taller, a little narrower production car has him denying what he saw with his own two eyes...and he's an eye doctor to boot!?!!?!
I keep thinking that "someone" has given him certian dimensions (however wrong they might be) and now he's convinced himself that what he SAW isn't what he wants to see now.
Personally, I think driving that POS BMW has him all confused on what he believes... j/k
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I've quickly scanned the comments on this thread.
Agree the grille looks nice. Someone mentioned the bowtie should stay off. I can't agree or disagree on that one... but I must say the car looks good without the bowtie. More sinister, if you will.
The thick A-pillars are a criticism of many here in regards to the VE. The 'good' news is that Holden have publicly admitted a redesign might take place. So I assume the change will also apply to Camaro IFF the redesign goes ahead. Sorry, I'm not an insider so I can't be any more committal other than what I've read in the media.
As others have said, great work by all concerned. You should be proud of your work. The car is georgeous even in white!
Agree the grille looks nice. Someone mentioned the bowtie should stay off. I can't agree or disagree on that one... but I must say the car looks good without the bowtie. More sinister, if you will.
The thick A-pillars are a criticism of many here in regards to the VE. The 'good' news is that Holden have publicly admitted a redesign might take place. So I assume the change will also apply to Camaro IFF the redesign goes ahead. Sorry, I'm not an insider so I can't be any more committal other than what I've read in the media.
As others have said, great work by all concerned. You should be proud of your work. The car is georgeous even in white!
