I have a'96 camaro z28 with ram air hood and borla exhaust and The other guy has a 2001 civic with a turbo and im unsure about the rest I assume he has headers c/a intake etc.I will post results of the race on here

 

A civic with a turbo really isnt anything to worry about unless he has forged internals and some slicks.
You should kill him... just plain torque advantage off the line.... He'd need 5k in engine upgrades to make it even close...go smoke him.

 

ive got tons of proof that you are dead wrong if you want it.

 

Sounds about right. Turbo's in NO WAY give you DOUBLE the starting hp. So.. take the civics starting hp; 115. DOUBLE that hp and you have 230, FAR less than the STOCK '96 Z28, and that is giving the civic DOUBLE the power it orignally had thru turbo alone (which isn't gonna happen.) Headers, add another 5-10hp and cai about 5-10 if your lucky.
Ok.. overestimating this car we are up to 250hp ABOSLUTE TOPS. Torque? Dont even go there.
So... 250hp vs the LT1 275+ 30'ish hp that Borla claims; who is the obvious winner?

 

matt matt matt. matty. mathew. i didnt want to make you look like a fool but heres proof.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1224573 -230whp with a stock bottom end. and a 60-1 which most honda guys consider to be a starter turbo

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1220997 -NON-VTEC B18B traack times on street tires and full interior. built bottom end but only 7 psi so at this point the bottom end doesnt mean jack.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1224101 drag 3 kit. -slightly upgraded version of the kit in the first link. 277whp 11.5 psi

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=688120 -doesnt say its a stock bottom end but at 7 psi most people dont go forged. 241whp. this will also end the supercharger vs. turbo debate. turbo shines through best IMO.

here is a pieced together kit which if you build your own (from premade parts) it can be done very cheaply. stock block again.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1218676 265whp on low boost 285whp on high boost.

my last point. my very good buddy Geoff went low 12s@120 or so with less than 350whp in his full weight civic dx. thats a stock bottom end also. he said he would have went 124 if his ignition wouldnt have cutout on the track but thats heresay and he only made 120. but know it was with a hurt setup.

 

But 250hp in a 2000lbs car is going to be quicker than 275 hp in a 3400lbs car. Not sticking up for a civic by no means. But they don't need as much power as we do to go as fast if set up properly. A lot of factors will come into play that would probably be a waste of time talking about, so let's just get some race results and go from there.

 

the first three engines are all different

b18c
b18b
b16

now I don't know crap about any of these...nor am I gonna spend anytime looking them up...but which one goes in the 01 civic...the others did not specify if they were b52, b17s or what...also on the dynos none seemed to make any respectable power IMO (200+) until 6250 or so...now I think this gives the camaro the edge out the hole...unless its one of those gay races where they start at 40 or so...I dunno i don't like knowing some retard on a tricycle could take my car from a stop...but I will admit those cars do make good power after 9,000,000 RPMs...just not where I like it...as far as who will win...more info needed for the civic...and I think it depends on how they race...

 

Yeah but that engine is not the one from the car...does it still count of you rob the bottom end from a different car...

 

all in all your still driving an econobox

 

I'll take your word for it cause I got no idea...240 might make it a good race if that traslates to high 13's on those cars...bolt on LT1 should go that same time maybe a little lower...the lower end of the spectrum 190ish I'm betting on the Camaro...

 

and you are still driving an over priced over hyped cavalier.

 

Ya ok, slap some forced induction on a V8 Camaro and see where it stands...

 

i know right

 

Then let's see you 'slap some forced induction' on and end all this. Sure they have a higher powerband, but they can also launch from right under it because of their lack of low-end torque putting them right in their band. And once they're there they will stay just like we do when we're racing. I would never, NEVER, want one of those POS's, but to be ignorant about it is just...well, ignorant. So what if he's using 20psi to beat you. I find it much cooler to win with straight motor, but that's not always the case. You can say 'what if i had a turbo..' but he's still winning right now, isn't he??

 

Wow...there are an abundance of things wrong with your analogy...