TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by 85_305
Yes, you are correct; Myself as well as others that come to THIS *CAMARO BOARD* to GET AWAY FROM THE IMPORT TRASH *do* get mad when the ******'s from some damned honduh-tech forum come here ONLY to start **** 
Why do I get worked up over this topic? Well maybe because as far as WORLDS HISTORY go, honduhs have never been ANYTHING except for granny-assed grocery getters. Old people and poor people drive them because they can always find them cheap (usually rusting in the early 90's and earlier's case) [NOTE: NO offense to the poor people of this board
] So.. all of a sudden, out of no-where a 117hp civic is fast according to these ***-loving faygoats. Ok.. 117hp is alot? Umm.. not the last time anybody checked the history books; my dads BONE STOCK 1967 Camaro 2spd had more power than that
Well, the ricer says "naw dog.. stick a turbo on that civic and I can take your V8!". Wow.. that is a relly valid argument for driving an ugly-assed, no-power, ballsless piece of freaking crap that is KILLING our economy and contributing to the japs (that by the way, take almost NOTHING from this country, yet we continue trade with them...) Ok.. so you take a 117 hp civic, slap on a turbo and call yourself fast. Wow.. you spent 10 grand on making your car as fast as a STOCK Camaro, Viper, what-have-you. Well, just to make this argument fair we are going to not only buy a turbo for 3g's, but use that 7g's you have left over (becaue we are spending the same ammount as you did on your honduh here...) and guess what? Since we have the turbo-LS1 in the 11's w/ just the turbo, spend that 7g's on some suspension/motor mods, and you are DEEP into the 8's or less.
Wow.. we have got a GREAT argument going on here eh?

Why do I get worked up over this topic? Well maybe because as far as WORLDS HISTORY go, honduhs have never been ANYTHING except for granny-assed grocery getters. Old people and poor people drive them because they can always find them cheap (usually rusting in the early 90's and earlier's case) [NOTE: NO offense to the poor people of this board
] So.. all of a sudden, out of no-where a 117hp civic is fast according to these ***-loving faygoats. Ok.. 117hp is alot? Umm.. not the last time anybody checked the history books; my dads BONE STOCK 1967 Camaro 2spd had more power than that
Well, the ricer says "naw dog.. stick a turbo on that civic and I can take your V8!". Wow.. that is a relly valid argument for driving an ugly-assed, no-power, ballsless piece of freaking crap that is KILLING our economy and contributing to the japs (that by the way, take almost NOTHING from this country, yet we continue trade with them...) Ok.. so you take a 117 hp civic, slap on a turbo and call yourself fast. Wow.. you spent 10 grand on making your car as fast as a STOCK Camaro, Viper, what-have-you. Well, just to make this argument fair we are going to not only buy a turbo for 3g's, but use that 7g's you have left over (becaue we are spending the same ammount as you did on your honduh here...) and guess what? Since we have the turbo-LS1 in the 11's w/ just the turbo, spend that 7g's on some suspension/motor mods, and you are DEEP into the 8's or less.Wow.. we have got a GREAT argument going on here eh?
and fwiw if you can call me a ****** then i have every right to call you a f*cking moron if you think you can go from an 11 second turbo ls1 to an 8 second ls1 just by adding suspension pieces. yeah such a great arguement. lots of talk and no action. hell you are working on a 300hp boat anchor, sky whatever is working on building some god aweful expensive engine thats supposedly gonna beat every import in this world, geoff is build a street monster that is not gonna be easy to beat. im workin on a street monster that wont be easy to beat. im willing to bet when the dust settles neither of you two will beat me or geoff. and ill gladly keep reciepts for you and your lover skyhog if you want me to.
Originally Posted by 85_305
Ok; facts. Lets talk facts. Your 2000? honduh puts out 117hp stock. (my dads 40+ year old Camaro put out TONS more than that stock, but hey; thats a different argument right?) A 2000? LS1 Camaro puts out over 300hp stock. Fact. Whose better? The honduh. Fact. Why? Because all it takes is 10g's in mods and you are on level with a BONE STOCK LS1. Fact. BUT.. there is a flipside to this convo. You can do one of 2 choices; you can take that SAME turbo that honduh used, and have 500+hp on that LS1. Or, as a second option you can take that 10g the honduh owner spent, and be well over 7-800 hp.
But hey; the honduh is better because you can spend TONS of money on it and STILL get NOWHERE FACT.
But hey; the honduh is better because you can spend TONS of money on it and STILL get NOWHERE FACT.
Originally Posted by 85_305
Why the HELL would I give somebody that spend THOUSANDS of dollars on a honduh, FINALLY hit 13's, and has the UGLIEST and most TASTELESS car on the face of the planet, credit??? I took a, as everybody calls it, "boat-anchor of a 305", spent 400 bucks (including the rebuild..) and have MORE power than your "awesomely phat, hip-hop yo-yo g-money clip" honduhs are putting out; WITH TURBO'S AT THAT! Why in the FOCK would I commend somebody on that?
Well.. I can see *one* instance I would commend someone like that. Their insane stupidity. There is nothing more stupid than making a SLOOOOOW car faster, for the cost of buying a more superior car (such as a Camaro; like my dads 40+ year old Camaro Z28...) that will *still* edge that honduh out
Well.. I can see *one* instance I would commend someone like that. Their insane stupidity. There is nothing more stupid than making a SLOOOOOW car faster, for the cost of buying a more superior car (such as a Camaro; like my dads 40+ year old Camaro Z28...) that will *still* edge that honduh out
Originally Posted by Skyhawk
87cam...lets say you had the choice of either an 02 Trans Am or a 02 Civic, both of which would be given to you for free. You are given equal money to build up each, which would you rather have? Wouldnt you rather start with a bigger engine and a hell of a lot more HP?
*EDIT*o ya, and aron, you must not like nascaar then. ive never seen them race from a stop. in fact off the top of my head (im kinda tired so thats why) i cant think of many racing leagues that DONT race from a roll.
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Dude, you never stop talking about Hondas, it's gets sooo old. Here's a fact for you: You can pump as much boost into that Civic as you want....I can do the same thing to my LS1 and make way more power. You don't seem to comprehend that anything you do to a Civic can be done to the LT1 or Ls1, and since we're starting with 5.7L of displacement to begin with, we'll always make more power. So stfu about your 117 hp econoboxes and take it to a site that cares.
Jason
Jason
Originally Posted by 87camracer
that so? care to tell me what they are? because way i see it, people that bought 4th gens in some cases paid 20-30k for a decent engine and tranny, a pos rear end, a sub par suspension, and an interior that makes a cavalier look like a Benz. so where exactly is the great deal that these cars are supposed to be? you can put 5k into them and run low 12s? you can do that with a civic as well. hell by that logic, those new electric cars are better than every car in the world because they dont need any mods to run with a viper stock.
geoff is right, every time theres a honda thread in here, skyhawk, 85_305(matt) and that vette guy come in with something stuck up their *** hell bent on making sure they argue without any facts. because ive never seen any facts posted by any of them. i just showed several examples to prove matt wrong. hell come back with some idiotic notion abotu rwd bein superior (even tho thats not what we are agruing about here) and how the 205wtq that one made is really low (again not what we are arguing here) and never post anything difference. i only know what one of them drives and its a carbed 305 3rd gen. hell my bolt on L98 wouldnt have any problem with that. but do you see me making repetative posts sh*t talking his car?

geoff is right, every time theres a honda thread in here, skyhawk, 85_305(matt) and that vette guy come in with something stuck up their *** hell bent on making sure they argue without any facts. because ive never seen any facts posted by any of them. i just showed several examples to prove matt wrong. hell come back with some idiotic notion abotu rwd bein superior (even tho thats not what we are agruing about here) and how the 205wtq that one made is really low (again not what we are arguing here) and never post anything difference. i only know what one of them drives and its a carbed 305 3rd gen. hell my bolt on L98 wouldnt have any problem with that. but do you see me making repetative posts sh*t talking his car?

Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by GotBoost??
85_305 I didnt realise how immature you were until now and how much you lack the ability to compose proper sentences, I know this isnt a classroom this is just the internet talking about cars, but ther eis no escuse for such illiteracy, between that and your evident lack of comprehension and critical thinking skills I am going to have to disregard everying that you just said.
Skyhawk do you have any current status pics of your setup, and any chance it will be ready within two months?
Skyhawk do you have any current status pics of your setup, and any chance it will be ready within two months?
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by JBird33
Ok, retard, here goes. Never lecture someone on their English skills when you don't have any yourself. Realize is spelled with a "Z." Excuse has never been spelled "escuse." You put a space in an improper spot "ther eis." That is a gigantic run-on sentence. There are apostrophes in contractions. No wonder you argue for Hondas, you are a grade-A moron who thinks he is smarter than everyone else. Get a clue!
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
As this thread has gone to fizuk...87 cam or Gotboost? (since cam says he knows you I figure you too might be from around the KC area)do you know a 95-96 ish just guesing here)hatch civic...white or off white...that ran around last summer or maybe the one before
...had a turbo...the only time I saw it, it raced a 68 SS down by Kemper...the 68 was unfamiliar with the road and ran into a fence
...maybe you saw or heard of that race...anyway just wondering if you know that car...as it was the fastest civic I have seen around here ever...
...had a turbo...the only time I saw it, it raced a 68 SS down by Kemper...the 68 was unfamiliar with the road and ran into a fence
...maybe you saw or heard of that race...anyway just wondering if you know that car...as it was the fastest civic I have seen around here ever...
Last edited by guywithaZ; Apr 27, 2005 at 12:26 AM.
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by guywithaZ
As this thread has gone to fizuk...87 cam or Gotboost? (since cam says he knows you I figure you too might be from around the KC area)do you know a 95-96 ish just guesing here)hatch civic...white or off white...that ran around last summer or maybe the one before
...had a turbo...the only time I saw it, it raced a 68 SS down by Kemper...the 68 was unfamiliar with the road and ran into a fence
...maybe you saw or heard of that race...anyway just wondering if you know that car...as it was the fastest civic I have seen around here ever...
...had a turbo...the only time I saw it, it raced a 68 SS down by Kemper...the 68 was unfamiliar with the road and ran into a fence
...maybe you saw or heard of that race...anyway just wondering if you know that car...as it was the fastest civic I have seen around here ever...
Originally Posted by yellavette
Dude, you never stop talking about Hondas, it's gets sooo old. Here's a fact for you: You can pump as much boost into that Civic as you want....I can do the same thing to my LS1 and make way more power. You don't seem to comprehend that anything you do to a Civic can be done to the LT1 or Ls1, and since we're starting with 5.7L of displacement to begin with, we'll always make more power. So stfu about your 117 hp econoboxes and take it to a site that cares.
Jason
Jason
Last edited by 87camracer; Apr 27, 2005 at 09:07 AM.
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
I don't even know why I bother with you, but here goes nothing.
<i mean did you buy your car to make up where you are lacking and then find out you can do the same with another car thats a "lesser" car?>
And that's my point. You can't. You can take a lesser car and spend $5k on it, but guess what, I can take the LS1, spend $5k on it and it'll be faster. We'll always be able to do that because we are NOT starting with a lesser car. You are the one patrolling this board for Honda content and then starting flames, not us. You guys are the ones on an FBody board telling us that the Fbody is a problematic cavalier and 4 cyl. honda engines have twice the powerband. Sounds like you have the small man issue, not us. We just don't like having our rides insulted by people who are so obviously ignorant to anything non-honda.
As far as the insults in your post (if you'll notice, I never insulted you, but you resort to it instantly). First let me say that I find it ironic that someone who can't even use correct grammar, spelling or sentence structure is insulting my intelligence. I'm a college educated small biz owner whose been modding/building cars since 1990. I was building turbo Supras before this board existed and had my own speed shop before you were most likely old enough to drive.
And I have a 9" *****
Jason
<i mean did you buy your car to make up where you are lacking and then find out you can do the same with another car thats a "lesser" car?>
And that's my point. You can't. You can take a lesser car and spend $5k on it, but guess what, I can take the LS1, spend $5k on it and it'll be faster. We'll always be able to do that because we are NOT starting with a lesser car. You are the one patrolling this board for Honda content and then starting flames, not us. You guys are the ones on an FBody board telling us that the Fbody is a problematic cavalier and 4 cyl. honda engines have twice the powerband. Sounds like you have the small man issue, not us. We just don't like having our rides insulted by people who are so obviously ignorant to anything non-honda.
As far as the insults in your post (if you'll notice, I never insulted you, but you resort to it instantly). First let me say that I find it ironic that someone who can't even use correct grammar, spelling or sentence structure is insulting my intelligence. I'm a college educated small biz owner whose been modding/building cars since 1990. I was building turbo Supras before this board existed and had my own speed shop before you were most likely old enough to drive.
And I have a 9" *****

Jason
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by GotBoost??
Skyhawk I asked you twice and Pm'ed you, when do you estimate your car will be ready to run?
I found two threads Skyhawk
This
and
This
In one thread you're not sure what rearend to go with. in the other thread you dont know what tranny to go with, so I am wondering how you plan on beating EVERY honda when you dont even know what you're doing?
from the second link I get the impression that you want to make 600+. that should be fun, but what honda do you think that will beat besides all motor and low boost setups? that is less power than some people have. with far less power to weight.
But then in This
you said "My goals are 390-400rwhp and i would really like to stay N/A with the head/cam but if this is an unrealistic goal going the N/A route than just tell me and i can lower it."
So now I am not so sure, which is it, a 400hp N/a fbody or a 600hp supercharged one? you also mentioned in the same thread you want it to be Reliable so Im betting you are not shooting for past 500hp. you made it seem like you were in the middle of building a 1200hp drag car
in THIS
you said you JUST learned to drive a stick, and it was of all cars a HONDA so you dont seem to have much racing experience (or driving)
anyway regardless, let me know when you estimate your car to be ready.
I found two threads Skyhawk
This
and
This
In one thread you're not sure what rearend to go with. in the other thread you dont know what tranny to go with, so I am wondering how you plan on beating EVERY honda when you dont even know what you're doing?
from the second link I get the impression that you want to make 600+. that should be fun, but what honda do you think that will beat besides all motor and low boost setups? that is less power than some people have. with far less power to weight.
But then in This
you said "My goals are 390-400rwhp and i would really like to stay N/A with the head/cam but if this is an unrealistic goal going the N/A route than just tell me and i can lower it."
So now I am not so sure, which is it, a 400hp N/a fbody or a 600hp supercharged one? you also mentioned in the same thread you want it to be Reliable so Im betting you are not shooting for past 500hp. you made it seem like you were in the middle of building a 1200hp drag car
in THIS
you said you JUST learned to drive a stick, and it was of all cars a HONDA so you dont seem to have much racing experience (or driving)
anyway regardless, let me know when you estimate your car to be ready.
and if you want to drive over here to Charlotte just to race me thats more than fine with me, id probaly laugh in your face when you got here. By the way, how old are you?
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by yellavette
I don't even know why I bother with you, but here goes nothing.
<i mean did you buy your car to make up where you are lacking and then find out you can do the same with another car thats a "lesser" car?>
And that's my point. You can't. You can take a lesser car and spend $5k on it, but guess what, I can take the LS1, spend $5k on it and it'll be faster. We'll always be able to do that because we are NOT starting with a lesser car. You are the one patrolling this board for Honda content and then starting flames, not us. You guys are the ones on an FBody board telling us that the Fbody is a problematic cavalier and 4 cyl. honda engines have twice the powerband. Sounds like you have the small man issue, not us. We just don't like having our rides insulted by people who are so obviously ignorant to anything non-honda.
As far as the insults in your post (if you'll notice, I never insulted you, but you resort to it instantly). First let me say that I find it ironic that someone who can't even use correct grammar, spelling or sentence structure is insulting my intelligence. I'm a college educated small biz owner whose been modding/building cars since 1990. I was building turbo Supras before this board existed and had my own speed shop before you were most likely old enough to drive.
And I have a 9" *****
Jason
<i mean did you buy your car to make up where you are lacking and then find out you can do the same with another car thats a "lesser" car?>
And that's my point. You can't. You can take a lesser car and spend $5k on it, but guess what, I can take the LS1, spend $5k on it and it'll be faster. We'll always be able to do that because we are NOT starting with a lesser car. You are the one patrolling this board for Honda content and then starting flames, not us. You guys are the ones on an FBody board telling us that the Fbody is a problematic cavalier and 4 cyl. honda engines have twice the powerband. Sounds like you have the small man issue, not us. We just don't like having our rides insulted by people who are so obviously ignorant to anything non-honda.
As far as the insults in your post (if you'll notice, I never insulted you, but you resort to it instantly). First let me say that I find it ironic that someone who can't even use correct grammar, spelling or sentence structure is insulting my intelligence. I'm a college educated small biz owner whose been modding/building cars since 1990. I was building turbo Supras before this board existed and had my own speed shop before you were most likely old enough to drive.
And I have a 9" *****

Jason
and as far as having a speed shop and this and that, you want a cookie? because i really dont give a sh*t. i argued when someone said something that was wrong. it was you guys calling honda owners "ricer *******". im done with you.
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
why doesnt someone just ban these people? its obvious that they only come in here to talk **** whenever the word "Honda" is mentioned. GotBoost? signed up just to talk **** and to post videos about Hondas, thats all his posts are about so that would make him a troll right there. At any other forum yall would be banned. People have gotten banned for doing much less at this site in the past. This is ridiculous.
This would be like me going to Honda-Acura.com or somewhere and continuing to post videos about Camaros beating Hondas on a Honda messageboard, thats just asking for trouble and id do it just to **** them off. Obviously your doing the same, your life is so boring that you have to come on here and get your friends to start **** on here posting Honda stuff on a CAMARO messageboard. This is why we have seperate messageboards for different cars, camaro owners dont come here to hear about Hondas and Honda owners down go to their messageboards to hear about Camaros.
I mean yall even looked up my AIM s/n and IMed me talking ****, what are we in 6th grade again or something? Next i know yall will be showing up at my door or something, I mean come on. This has gotten ridiculous.
I was actually going to respond to your PM and actually ask you what you were doing to your car and a nice way and just talk to you about it, and then you go off like that. Fawk that.
This would be like me going to Honda-Acura.com or somewhere and continuing to post videos about Camaros beating Hondas on a Honda messageboard, thats just asking for trouble and id do it just to **** them off. Obviously your doing the same, your life is so boring that you have to come on here and get your friends to start **** on here posting Honda stuff on a CAMARO messageboard. This is why we have seperate messageboards for different cars, camaro owners dont come here to hear about Hondas and Honda owners down go to their messageboards to hear about Camaros.
I mean yall even looked up my AIM s/n and IMed me talking ****, what are we in 6th grade again or something? Next i know yall will be showing up at my door or something, I mean come on. This has gotten ridiculous.
I was actually going to respond to your PM and actually ask you what you were doing to your car and a nice way and just talk to you about it, and then you go off like that. Fawk that.
Last edited by Skyhawk; Apr 27, 2005 at 01:11 PM.
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by yellavette
But that's what the Civic did. They took a cheap car, slapped on a turbo and now they're happy they can run with stock v8's. Whoopi. Give me a cheap LT1, slap a turbo on it and I'll run with Vipers. Anything the honda can do we can do better....
Jason
Jason
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by GotBoost??
First you say..
alright obviously when i said that it was just to get you all butthurt and worked up about it and obviously it worked. My car just got paid off and i had the money to buy a vette but ive always wanted to do something to my current car and so thats what i decided to do. The money that i was going to spend on the vette is going into the car, vettes arent cheap, you decide how much money i have to spend on the car. So i am and i do have the money to do something. And to the full of hot air thing--im not even gonna respond to that b/c i personally dont give a **** what someone on a messageboard thinks about me, thats the last thing i worry about.

But as your good friend 87cam would say, "Im done". I just wont respond to any more of these threads b/c its pointless, i feel like my IQ has gone down by responding to these threads.
But you my friend have a great day. Last edited by Skyhawk; Apr 27, 2005 at 01:28 PM.
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
Originally Posted by GotBoost??
but..your screen name is yellavette , no I'm just nit picking
but seriously. there are a few flaws in what you are saying, for one I have seen a fully built fbody with a t74 run a 9.9@140. I have seen street hondas go faster.
To this day I have never seen ANY street fbody push 25+psi, this is for a reason. but at the end of the day what does it matter? fast is fast. if a 600hp fbody runs 10's and a 400hp fbody runs the same times, what does it matter who has more power. if another car is just as fast with less? wouldnt a viper engine make mor epower with the same mods as an fbody? so why get an fbody?
but seriously. there are a few flaws in what you are saying, for one I have seen a fully built fbody with a t74 run a 9.9@140. I have seen street hondas go faster. To this day I have never seen ANY street fbody push 25+psi, this is for a reason. but at the end of the day what does it matter? fast is fast. if a 600hp fbody runs 10's and a 400hp fbody runs the same times, what does it matter who has more power. if another car is just as fast with less? wouldnt a viper engine make mor epower with the same mods as an fbody? so why get an fbody?
Re: TURBO CIVIc VS.CAMARO Z28
LOL....you talk about comprehension as if you understand what it means. Do you think everyone here has forgotten the things you've said in the past and that the only thing that matters is what you've said in this topic?? Who are you trying to kid? All we have to do is a search under your username to see what you've said. Try it, you might be surprised at how much you resemble a troll.
Btw, never once did I insult you or hondas. Don't know where you got that "ricer ******" thing from, but it wasn't me. I've always tried to be civilized in my posts.
Jason
Btw, never once did I insult you or hondas. Don't know where you got that "ricer ******" thing from, but it wasn't me. I've always tried to be civilized in my posts.
Jason
Originally Posted by 87camracer
you really dont know how to comprehend things do you? that piece of paper from college doesnt show very much evidently. show me where i bashed someones car BEFORE someone bashed a honda. if you canfind one ill go back right now and edit that because that was never my intent.
and as far as having a speed shop and this and that, you want a cookie? because i really dont give a sh*t. i argued when someone said something that was wrong. it was you guys calling honda owners "ricer *******". im done with you.
and as far as having a speed shop and this and that, you want a cookie? because i really dont give a sh*t. i argued when someone said something that was wrong. it was you guys calling honda owners "ricer *******". im done with you.



