I've seen people on here with more work done than that and a turbo kit thrown on. Sure that's 'fully' built but can be made a lot faster. That's exactly like comparing that car to your average racer honda with a turbo because so much more CAN be done. So I would call that a built car, but not 'fully' built. Still would be like comparing, once again, a 13 sec honda to a 9 sec fbody. Only a 4 sec different? riiigghhhhtttttt

 

Well this whole post is argumentative. I'm not trying to talk down to you at all, just explain where I'm coming from. I don't have a problem with anyone here and would like to keep it that way. You're right by saying that he's not missing anything, that's not really what I meant. I was just at the track and watched fbodys runnin 6s and such with blowers that, besides a hood, tires, and exhaust, would look just stock. I'm saying that I've never seen hondas running ANYWHERE near those time without pretty much nothing stock but the body. And to get into the 9s with hondas, doesn't that usually include a motor swap followed by everything else?

 

Ya, the difference being I don't lecture people on their English skills. You tried to come off as smarter than these other people, and I put you in your place. If I wanted to properly compose every post of mine, I would. Next time you try to lecture someone, make sure you can do it correctly.

 

Show us the fully built honda you're talking about and let's compare different cars. Get everyone's opinion on this. Let's bring some facts in here so people can stop being immature and name-calling.
I'm trying to be on both sides and understand where everyone is coming from, but it's not going to change my OPINION that fbodys will always be better

 

Now I don't have a problem admiting that it is a fast car. If you want me to pick on it, those tires are illegal for the streets (at least where I am) because they stick outside the fenders, lol. Any car can be made fast. Hell, my 87 POS Accord (work car, I know) could be a 9 sec rocket if I really wanted it to be. But you have to admit it is easier to put any fbody in that time bracket. That being said, it is more common to see fbodys hitting 9s and faster because of that. At least that Acura doesn't have a huge wing, lol.

 

I was just jokin about the tires, but ya, I see what you mean. I also agree with you about the awd drive cars running better 60ft times. In my personal experience from owning both awd and a couple camaros, I've noticed that my camaros have been a lot more dependable when modding got in the picture. The awd's will make better 60s, but how many times will that happen before they break?

 

see where does everyone pick that up from? i nor geoff have ever said that you cant. we argued that its not as hard as one would think to make a honda fastER. ive never ever said that fwd can be made into a better drag car than rwd. if i have i must have been drunk when i posted. but seriously, where in this post have we said this? everyone that argues us keeps saying the same damn thing, they will change the words around a bit but we never get anywhere. post some cold hard facts (like links to people doing it) that prove we are wrong. because mathew on the first page said 250hp on a stock engine wasnt possible. i posted SEVERAL people doing it. he didnt say stock bottom end for that car or anything like that. he said stock bottom end. period. thats what i posted. yet somehow now according to him and everyone else in this thread we are now saying an fbody isnt as good of a drag car??? where in the world did that come from?

 

Hey, pull your panties out of your crack there buddy. I was having a discussion with gotboost in a civilized manner and that was related to everything we were talking about. I'm not even going to waste my time starting the same discussion with you (or anyone else). So in the words of Fez...Good day, I said good day!

 

What you say is exactly true! Boost on a Viper will net more hp than boost on an Fbody because of cubes....just like boost on a Fbody will net more hp than boost on a Honda. It's all about moving air and more cubes moves more air. The vibe I've been getting from you guys (mainly 87camracer) is that hondas have the corner on (or an advantage in) that particular market, and they don't. It's always going to be easier to squeeze extra hp out of a larger engine than a smaller one, no matter what means you use. If the honda's engine was built for boost like the Cobra or Supra, then they'd have a decided advantage as they wouldn't have to replace internals to run big hp, but you've gotto do the same stuff to the honda as you do the fbody to make big power.

You may have seen a built Fbody run 9's, but they've run 7's as well. Guess it depends on your definition of built. I had a bud with a mondo blower on his 383 Vette that trapped at 150 mph....with full interior. So although you may never have seen it, it's being done all the time.

<if a 600hp fbody runs 10's and a 400hp fbody runs the same times, what does it matter who has more power.>

No, it doesn't matter if you're talking about dragstrip racing. But take traction (or lack of) out of the equation and you know who'll win. As far as street and road racing, the 600 hp car is gonna dominate.

Anyway, it's nice that you can post a different opinion without insults. It's appreciated.

Jason

 

Very true, and I agree. My issue was with camracer talking about how you can make the honda faster for cheaper and it's got a better powerband, etc.etc. Can I ask why you prefer a fwd car? Is it just the cost of the car or would you get a Honda regardless of price?

Jason

 

What? Are you joking GEOFF? (notice the similarities in names people??)
I said no honduh starting with 117hp, with TURBO ALONE, will make more than 230hp. THOSE were my guidlines. And I *hate* to break your bubble, but I did not say ANYTHING of the sort in regards to "yet somehow now according to him and everyone else in this thread we are now saying an fbody isnt as good of a drag car", you are one crazy man. I NEVER said anything about that But I *did* say something along the lines of, if you actually PREFER a POS granny-getter over a 300+hp LS1, then you are absolutely CRAZY.

 

But, then it dawns on you; "In all reality, I am still driving an ugly, tasteless, granny-getting honduh, so nobody really cares about this except all the other local rice-boys"

 

lol and what is an 85 maro??...:P...gotcha
by the way boost is adictive...kinda like an unending nitrous shot..gotta love it

 

C'mon now be fair...you did pick a **** box of a camaro...and custom civic...

 

Oh ya, wow, a Civic with rims...soo...gorgeous....ya right. I see one every 4th car when I'm driving. Not that I like '85 Camaros either. I can't believe you'd call a Civic gorgeous...they are so plain!! All to their own I guess...I used to own a '96 EX, so I know what I'm talking about. And it sucked.