SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by scott9050
And how do you figure? The argument was made that LS-1's respond to mods better than the Modular Ford family of engines. These cars are simply having head work done, replacing the rods and pistons and adding a power adder. Last time I checked these were mods and were within my realm of argument. LS-1's with the same internal work with the same power adders are running slower. Again, these cars are modded, but are still running slower times. Everything I stated was a direct and factual rebuttal to said argument and made perfect sense.
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by warwickbass
Um..There's more to a car than just the engine.
Thanks.
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
i don't know why the lt1 guys are crying this much about this topic. i don't see too many ls1's owners complaining here and as far as i know, those are the fast ones.
stop complaining about mustangs, after all, is just competition
, more competition mean gm should think better and bring the fbody again, instead of putting more power into their australian grand am POS. even with an ls2 engine, a 03/04 cobra would kick their azzes, you know this already....
stop complaining about mustangs, after all, is just competition
, more competition mean gm should think better and bring the fbody again, instead of putting more power into their australian grand am POS. even with an ls2 engine, a 03/04 cobra would kick their azzes, you know this already....
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by Robert95z
Im just curious, do F-Body guys go on mustang forums and talk mess? like these mustang guys?
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by warwickbass
Um..There's more to a car than just the engine.
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by scott9050
I know that perfectly well. Shall we talk rear ends? Seems that the Ford 8.8, which is almost the same design as the G.M. 12 bolt, is superior to the 10 bolt G.M. Everyone I have talked to and have heard from says that the Mustang was put together better than the F-body. Everyone usually agrees that the Mustang is easier to live with on a daily basis than the f-body. You are right, there is more to a car than just the engine
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by redcamaro
stop complaining about mustangs, after all, is just competition , more competition mean gm should think better and bring the fbody again, instead of putting more power into their australian grand am POS. even with an ls2 engine, a 03/04 cobra would kick their azzes, you know this already....
, more competition mean gm should think better and bring the fbody again, instead of putting more power into their australian grand am POS. even with an ls2 engine, a 03/04 cobra would kick their azzes, you know this already.... I agree with that, lol. The current gto sucks, even with the LS1 power plant. I dont think an LS2 would help it alot enough to content with some strong 03/04 cobras. That brings back the statement, its not just the motor that makes the car great. So the LS1 isnt the only good thing about fbodies. I dont think the 4.6 is a better motor then the Ls1, it was jsut to easy to get my car to run awsome times i havent seen any 4.6s accomplish as easy as some of the Ls1s.
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by warwickbass
Dude, I'm just saying I don't think the 4.6L is a better engine than the LS1 EVEN though a car that has a 4.6L in it is quicker.
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
OMG lol you guys are STILL argueing. God, the ls1 got pulled on by an n/a 4.6. GET OVER IT. That video should be in the riply's believe or not museam. "Watch as this ls1 actually LOSES to a slower car!!!"
Off topic, redcamaro, how does the LM sound with that xpipe?
Off topic, redcamaro, how does the LM sound with that xpipe?
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by Z28WannaB
Why must people always use the best in their situation versus the weakest in the "arguers" situation.
'Yeah, well an automatic LS1 has run a high 13 so they must ALL do that. 'Never mind that many people can break 13s with LT1 autos.
And look, look at this 5spd swapped Mustang with modifications, it runs faster than the worst representation of an automatic LS1.
See See! I'm right!
Steve Y you have just presented the most obvious logical fallacies.
My favorite one is when they go run on the track and leave themself a "handicap" so later they can blame a few tenths on that. Oh well, my air filter was dirty, oh I didn't have new tires, oh I didn't POWERSHIFT. Give me a break. Who doesn't "powershift" when they drag race, you are already raping your car might as well see what time it can pull.
'Yeah, well an automatic LS1 has run a high 13 so they must ALL do that. 'Never mind that many people can break 13s with LT1 autos.
And look, look at this 5spd swapped Mustang with modifications, it runs faster than the worst representation of an automatic LS1.
See See! I'm right!
Steve Y you have just presented the most obvious logical fallacies.
My favorite one is when they go run on the track and leave themself a "handicap" so later they can blame a few tenths on that. Oh well, my air filter was dirty, oh I didn't have new tires, oh I didn't POWERSHIFT. Give me a break. Who doesn't "powershift" when they drag race, you are already raping your car might as well see what time it can pull.
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by Robert95z
Im just curious, do F-Body guys go on mustang forums and talk mess? like these mustang guys?
I love fast cars, Chevy, Ford, or Dodge.... if its fast, i like it
I love fast cars, Chevy, Ford, or Dodge.... if its fast, i like it
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by lovescamaros25
they come on these forums and talk trash because last year was the first year they could actually contend with the lt1 and ls1 yr for yr with the intro of the 03 cobra.lets see that 03 cobra vs a 4th gen zl1 camaro.hmmmmm.the reason i said the mustang is in troble for 05 is there is not going to be an 05 cobra,and im pretty damn sure the new ls2 gto will smack it around,and really give the artificially aspirated 03-04 cobra a run for its money if not blow it away with.if its anywhere near as fast as the 05 vette it will run 12s all day long.
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Re: SS Camaro VS 04 Mach 1 Video
Originally Posted by lovescamaros25
ive seen plenty for the lt1 and ls1,but has anyone seen any car mags other than mustangs and fast fords and 5.0,use the 4.6 engine for articles?not me.oppen up popular hot rodding,car craft,hot rod and what do you see ls1 the engine that was made by gods own hand.
The LS6 and the '03 Cobra motor are better than the LS1 and they don't say much about them. They must have low standards. Kind of like the white trash dude that looks at a skinny, drugged out crooked toothed ***** and thinks she's hot.