Gah, the LS1 puts more power than a N/A Cobra motor. Right?

 

I guess I should have stated I was referring to the 2v heads. But just so you know, there is an after market package called "Wolf (something)" that puts a supercharger on the mach and takes it to over 400hp. I have seen nothing higher. What I said though is that dollar for dollar, the ls1 will be much faster.

 

first of all,the 03 cobra motor is no different than a 01 cobra motor except it has a supercharger.secondly the z28 was faster than the cobra in the early 4th gen.i got road test comparisons

 

Ya, and DOHC 4.6s leak oil through headgaskets. No no, really they do! There's a TSB on it! i got internet that sayz sew

 

Yep, the same. Only different heads, block, pistons, crank, intake etc etc etc

 

Yes I launch at 3-4K rpm on drag radials and don't powershift, sue me. I launch smoothly and easily, I don't side step the clutch. What were your mods? If an '03 Cobra doesn't impress you, not much will.

 

I was talking about the '03 Cobra motor, it is blown.

 

The '03 and '01 Cobra motors are way different. Iron block in the '03, alum. block in the '01. Different heads, cams, pistons, rods, crank?, etc. They vary a lot, besides the supercharger. The Z28 was not faster than the Cobra in '96 and '97.

 

I've gone 13.20's @ 108 in my 1998 with a catback and street tires.

12.88 @ 106 with lid, K&N, & catback on street tires.

 

I dont know man, magazine times i think for Lt1 Z28s were low 14s to high 13s. What were the cobras running in 1997?

 

I've seen 13.20's out of a MOSTLY stock mach 1 (it's very hard to find a mustang without exhaust mods).

 

I've dynod 02+ corvettes at less than 280rwhp and 290rwtq. There are freaks, and then there are average performers.

 

My mods? I dont have any. I already raced an 03 convertible Cobra, didnt impress me, went with my buddy to the strip last week, seen about 4 03's (hardtops) running 13.0's to 13.3's trapping 105-107, didnt impress me. I am by no means saying that the Cobra's/Mach's are slow, i am saying they dont impress me. What does impress me? Z06's running low 12's, and now someone clicking off a high 11 second pass with an 04 BONE STOCK!!. No power adder, no bitching about the IRS (common among 03 cobra owners). I also never said my 95 Z28 was faster then a 96-97-98 cobra, i simply stated that the numerous 96-97-98 Cobra's that i ran against were not a problem to beat. On a side note the 96-97 z28 had 285 hp, 10 more then mine due to the dual cats, and there was also an SS, WS6, and firehawk in 96-97 too which are faster then the 96-97-98 Cobra's stock for stock. Then if you got a 97 SS with an LT4, well then they were quite a bit faster then a cobra if i remember correctly. So lets compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.
96 SS is faster then a 96 cobra
96 WS6 is faster then a 96 cobra
96 firehawk is faster then a 96 cobra
same scenario for 97 with one exception
97 LT4 SS is one hell of a lot faster then a 97 Cobra
96 Z28 to 96 GT----wow
97 z28 to 97 GT----wow

Oh by the way, i have an old 5.0 mustangs and fast fords mag here (bought it because i was considering a mustang, drove a 01 cobra, and my 00 SS, and really didnt have to think about it much more). Its the issue where they race the 03 Cobra vs The 03 Mach with the vortec on it. Here we go
03 Cobra specs
319 HP @6400 RPMs rear wheel
309 FT LBS @3800 RPMS rear wheel
1/4 mile :13.09@110.82 0-60 4.9 seconds
The mach ran the 1/4 in 11.96@121.16 0-60 in 3.88 seconds.

I believe the same mag (or one of those mustang mags) Ran an 02SS 12.9 at 109 something. Like i said the 03's dont impress me.

 

cool but poorly done vid... nice to see a freak stang (or he's sprayin), either way he dusted the other car, doesn't matter how...

 

But I bet your car impresses you, right? You've obviously been to the track...what did you run?

Read: Doesn't say GM, so it don't impress me (how much faster it is than my car is quite irrelevant).

They impress me too - regardless of who makes them. But stock 11's are old news for those of us that have been around a while and keep up with such things.

Cool.

Isn't it amazing that most folks never lose (on the internet) to cars that are supposed to be their direct competitors? And of course, they have always run "serveral" or "numerous" examples.

So what did your 95Z run? As an FYI, my 98 Cobra went 13.6 @ 104 mph in 100% bone stock trim - including the factory air filter. Ok, I had Mobil 1 oil. Some people consider that a mod.

SS's and WS6's were typically no quicker than their "normal" counterparts. That is especially true of "stripper" Z28s and Formulas. But don't take my word for it - go ask F-body owners who are real drag racers.

Ya. And how many LT4 97 SS's were made? Please look it up for us.

By your interpretation. Ok.

By implication, this means that a regular Z28 and Formula were also quicker? I disagree - at the limit, it was pretty much a driver's race.

All 41 of them made, right? Wow. There were more Cobra R's made in 95. Should we count those too in this discussion? The 96 Firehawk had a whopping 5 HP more than a WS6 (gotta love that catback, I guess).

See comment above about how many were made. But you're right - they were quicker.

Indeed.

"Vortec"? Isn't that GM's designation for some of their engines?

Anyways....

You might want to go read that again. Really.

That's about right for a bone stock 03 Cobra - though MM&FF has gone as quick as 12.4 in a bone stock 03 Cobra. I know that wouldn't even sort of impress you. Damn glad they weren't trying to.

Quick car. So a modified Mach 1 beat a stock Cobra? Imagine that.

That is correct - though it was an 01SS, and they ran a 99 Z28 to a 12.89 a couple of years ealier (in stellar air). Regardles, see 12.4 second 03 Cobra comment above.