Well you just proved your intelligence level...so I'll just reiterate my last post, since you guys on this site fail miserably in comparison to the folks on LS1.com and I don't want to waste any more of my time. Give...the...(still with me here chief?)mach...1...some...time...at the track. There, I even typed it slow so you could keep up. I've seen mach 1 times at 13.1, and you're telling me a factory freak mach 1 won't break into the 12's? I think that bowtie around your neck is cutting off circulation to your brain...makes me want to re-think my next car because of moron owners like you.

 

lol Thanks for the laugh. When did I say the Mach 1s weren't capable of running 12s and trapping 108 stock? You're making stuff up there big guy. In my first post, I asked if they have. That's it. All I said was I feel LS1s still have a slight edge on the Machs. I have a hard time believeing you're this retarded.

I said I like the cars and what Ford is doing. Pull your head out of your *** and stop being so defensive.

 

Oh well let me give you a big e-hug for the misunderstanding...

When most people say a car runs xx.xx@xxx, then asks if another car will run that time stock, it usually implies something else...quit trying to change your arguements, you look dumb.

 

lol Man, you're delusional or just really stupid (I'm leaning towards the latter at this point). You classified me as a typical LS1 owner right when u saw I owned a LS1. I know the attitude you are speaking of, but that's not me. I couldn't care less what you think. Go to LS1tech if that's where u want to post (doh! I post there too).

Have a day.

 

Damn, this forum has really gone to hell

 

I wasn't aware this forum had an origination other than hell..?

 

heaven forbid there should be open debate on a forum!

 

So, you're saying Mach 1s aren't that far off from Cobras? Which is stupid because they come with a supercharger.

 

The machs are faster than N/A cobras...lighter block, aluminum instead of forged. So yeah...I haven't seen any machs hit high 12's yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do since I have seen very low 13's out of them so far.

 

BTW just for the record, I would buy an LS1 over a Mach simply for the top-end...I am not biased towards fords or any other auto maker.

 

Oh ok. You've seen very low 13s for BONE stock Mach 1s?

 

Go to thecorral.net or ls1.com and see what kind of times some of the quicker machs are running

 

dang, its rare a mach 1 pull an LS1 like that, if i had to make a guess i would say that looks like he has an extra 100-150hp leaking into that intake somehow to pull the Ls1 that hard when they had such comparable things done.
But then again, not every LS1 runs as good. Mabey due to driver or its just dont run good. I drove a buddies 2002 SS and it didnt feel like it pulled hard at all compared to alot of other LS1s. We ran him with another stock LS1 and he got walked pretty good. So i guess a good strong running mach 1 could pull an LS1 like that.
There was a guy around here with a 100 shot on a "1999" GT running 7.5s in the 1/8th. That is unheard of for newer GT. Not to mention the guy with the fastest stock cammed 306 in the world tuned it, but needless to say all that was done was a 100shot, higher gears, cold air and exhaust.

 

Any Ls1 w/ a few good mods would run you hard, especially a well driven 6spd...I attribute those defeats to a bad camaro driver

 

if anyone should be embarassed it should be mustang owners for absolutely being owned for about ten years in a row 199-2002 by the camaro.the v6 camaro was faster than the v6 stang ,the z28 was much faster than the gt and the ss edged out the cobra.i mean is there any doubt who was champ of the 4th gen.also, as far as aftermarket goes its obvious the ls1 responds to mods much better than the 4.6 mustang.it may sound biased but everything i typed is a fact.the camaro is to the 4th gen what mopar was to the muscle car era.