Results! LS1 vs. me
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Originally posted by Antz97ZNJ
I would love to see where thats documented or where you found that .Those times and especially those traps are unheard of for a stock LT1...fastest LT1 time ive seen period was a 6spd LT1 96 vette that ran a 13.4, and that was off fbody.com years back
I would love to see where thats documented or where you found that .Those times and especially those traps are unheard of for a stock LT1...fastest LT1 time ive seen period was a 6spd LT1 96 vette that ran a 13.4, and that was off fbody.com years back
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Originally posted by CamaroGuy22
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Yea firechicken, yellow formula know ALLL about it, actually even saw it run a few times at Englishtown. Isnt it funny how whatever gm car gmhtp tests they always pull outrageous times w/ it, hence why i stopped reading that publication years ago. Fastest kinda stock LT1 I ever raced was a free modded(which basically does nothing) 94-95 323 Formula, kid was cutting consistant 13.7's...he was running right w/ me w/ my 373's, and a few other mods
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[i]I think my car is in the same class as most bone stock LS1s in the 1/4 mile (e.t. not trap speeds), meaning I will win some and lose some. I know from a roll start most LS1s would beat me. So far I am 2 and 0, what does that tell you? I am willing to race ANY stock LS1 anytime on this track. I will keep racing them and keep reporting back. Send some my way if you want!
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CamaroGuy22,
I still post on EFA. Not quite as much as elsewhere but I do read it every day. Next time I am going down to Tims house I'll have to post up and try get a meet and great together. I haven't seen a lot of the guys since the EFA track day back in 01.
Here is the link to the board forums.
http://forum.easternfbody.com/
I still post on EFA. Not quite as much as elsewhere but I do read it every day. Next time I am going down to Tims house I'll have to post up and try get a meet and great together. I haven't seen a lot of the guys since the EFA track day back in 01.
Here is the link to the board forums.
http://forum.easternfbody.com/
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From: Pasadena, Md, USA
Originally posted by LeadSled1
CamaroGuy22,
I still post on EFA. Not quite as much as elsewhere but I do read it every day. Next time I am going down to Tims house I'll have to post up and try get a meet and great together. I haven't seen a lot of the guys since the EFA track day back in 01.
Here is the link to the board forums.
http://forum.easternfbody.com/
CamaroGuy22,
I still post on EFA. Not quite as much as elsewhere but I do read it every day. Next time I am going down to Tims house I'll have to post up and try get a meet and great together. I haven't seen a lot of the guys since the EFA track day back in 01.
Here is the link to the board forums.
http://forum.easternfbody.com/
We'll have to go out in GB with my turd this time and see what 15+ psi of boost feels like. Should be fun with the DR's.
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Originally posted by falchulk
Ok, which is it, is your car in the same class as an ls1 or would it get left behind by a stong one? It cannot be both. Your care is not in the same class. You would lose even to a "poorly maintained" car making 280rwhp.
Ok, which is it, is your car in the same class as an ls1 or would it get left behind by a stong one? It cannot be both. Your care is not in the same class. You would lose even to a "poorly maintained" car making 280rwhp.
I have already beat two LS1s and you think a poorly maintained 280 rwhp one will beat me? Hahahah. Bring your 280 rwhp stock one here and prove it! Some stock ones in perfect tune and maintenance will only pull 280 rwhp.
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Originally posted by 97bowtie
The thing (that holds true with most of what we have been discussing here) is, the conditions will make or break runs. If you run in negative DA, you will run 'freakish' times. If you run in the 115* AZ heat, with a 5000' DA you won't. Tracks vary, dynos vary. Nothing we are talking about here is concrete. I guess that's why it's been (and always is) such a long discussion. At least we managed to keep it civil this time.
The thing (that holds true with most of what we have been discussing here) is, the conditions will make or break runs. If you run in negative DA, you will run 'freakish' times. If you run in the 115* AZ heat, with a 5000' DA you won't. Tracks vary, dynos vary. Nothing we are talking about here is concrete. I guess that's why it's been (and always is) such a long discussion. At least we managed to keep it civil this time.
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Originally posted by 1BadAzzGT
My experience, however, speaking truthfully was at the 1/4 mile track (when my car was N/A) I ran my buddies bone stock 99 T/A (LS1) and I would have him by 2/3 cars up to around the 1/8th mile and at the quarter mile he would be 2/3 cars ahead. Keep in mind we're talking stock vs stock. Then again, my turd only had 225hp (at the flywheel) and not the 260hp engine that ford decided to throw in these POS cars in 99+.
My experience, however, speaking truthfully was at the 1/4 mile track (when my car was N/A) I ran my buddies bone stock 99 T/A (LS1) and I would have him by 2/3 cars up to around the 1/8th mile and at the quarter mile he would be 2/3 cars ahead. Keep in mind we're talking stock vs stock. Then again, my turd only had 225hp (at the flywheel) and not the 260hp engine that ford decided to throw in these POS cars in 99+.
That is why I do well against stock ones.
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Re: Re: the ls1 guy must not have got on it
Originally posted by Steve Y
See the sig. Mach 1s weigh the same as LS1s, both about 3400 lbs. Yes slicks make a hell of a difference!
See the sig. Mach 1s weigh the same as LS1s, both about 3400 lbs. Yes slicks make a hell of a difference!
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The 6 spd. option and the LT4 option could only be ordered together. You couldn't get a 6spd. car with an LT1 or an automatic car with the Lt4. (in 1996).
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Jason
Originally posted by lovescamaros25
the lt4 v-8 and six speed were optional if you wanted to turn your collector edition into a muscle corvette.directly out of my american muscle cars book.lt1 was standard for 1996
the lt4 v-8 and six speed were optional if you wanted to turn your collector edition into a muscle corvette.directly out of my american muscle cars book.lt1 was standard for 1996
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Originally posted by Steve Y
What I mean to say is your average stock LS1 should be a good race for me, in the 1/4 mile. The superfreaks with great drivers should run me down after they get traction. Remember, stock LS1 6Ms have dynoed from 282 to 321 rwhp! There is a big difference between the fastest and slowest ones.
What I mean to say is your average stock LS1 should be a good race for me, in the 1/4 mile. The superfreaks with great drivers should run me down after they get traction. Remember, stock LS1 6Ms have dynoed from 282 to 321 rwhp! There is a big difference between the fastest and slowest ones.
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Originally posted by yellavette
The 6 spd. option and the LT4 option could only be ordered together. You couldn't get a 6spd. car with an LT1 or an automatic car with the Lt4. (in 1996).
Jason
The 6 spd. option and the LT4 option could only be ordered together. You couldn't get a 6spd. car with an LT1 or an automatic car with the Lt4. (in 1996).
Jason
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Originally posted by 97bowtie
Steve - that dyno variance could VERY easily be differences in the dynos, CFs, how they were calibrated etc. Dynos are merely a tuning tool, the truth is in the pudding. I don't think the variance in performance is truly as bad as everyone makes it out to be. There are way too many variables involved to compare how a car runs in one state vs. another state. You will see the same variance in Mustangs etc. I have read about new Mach 1s running 14.0 @ 101 to 13.2 @ 106 bone stock. That's a huge difference which I'm certain isn't a product of quality control problems at Ford but rather serves to demonstrate that the same car will put up much different numbers given different conditions. I know most of us understand this, but it seems to go overlooked a lot of times.
Steve - that dyno variance could VERY easily be differences in the dynos, CFs, how they were calibrated etc. Dynos are merely a tuning tool, the truth is in the pudding. I don't think the variance in performance is truly as bad as everyone makes it out to be. There are way too many variables involved to compare how a car runs in one state vs. another state. You will see the same variance in Mustangs etc. I have read about new Mach 1s running 14.0 @ 101 to 13.2 @ 106 bone stock. That's a huge difference which I'm certain isn't a product of quality control problems at Ford but rather serves to demonstrate that the same car will put up much different numbers given different conditions. I know most of us understand this, but it seems to go overlooked a lot of times.