ME VS 01-03 Stang GT
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Originally posted by scott9050
Actually you are both sort of right, the 96-97 are around 255 rwhp while the 98's got a better computer program and dyno about 265 to the wheels.
Actually you are both sort of right, the 96-97 are around 255 rwhp while the 98's got a better computer program and dyno about 265 to the wheels.
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Originally posted by Steve Y
So Bob, Scott, and Darren, do you guys think a '99 GT 5M is a close race for a '96-'98 Cobra in the 1/4 mile? How close? Of course we are talking stock for stock with equal drivers on the same day.
So Bob, Scott, and Darren, do you guys think a '99 GT 5M is a close race for a '96-'98 Cobra in the 1/4 mile? How close? Of course we are talking stock for stock with equal drivers on the same day.
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Originally posted by scott9050
Equal drivers I think the Cobra will pull in the second half of the track with the first 1/8th being very very close. I don't think it will pull too badly before the 1/4 is through, but after that 1/4 the gap would get bigger and bigger.
Equal drivers I think the Cobra will pull in the second half of the track with the first 1/8th being very very close. I don't think it will pull too badly before the 1/4 is through, but after that 1/4 the gap would get bigger and bigger.
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Originally posted by Steve Y
So do you think the Cobra would be ahead by 1 or 2 carlengths at the 1/4 mile?
So do you think the Cobra would be ahead by 1 or 2 carlengths at the 1/4 mile?
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Originally posted by scott9050
If equal drivers, yes. RT's though could win a race for the GT. With your times and minimal mods it would be an even closer race.
If equal drivers, yes. RT's though could win a race for the GT. With your times and minimal mods it would be an even closer race.
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Best bone stock time for a '99+ GT 5M I have heard was a 13.7 at 101. Best I have heard for a '96-'98 bone stock Cobra 5M is a 13.59 at 102.xx. Anybody heard any better times than these for these cars, bone stock?
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Originally posted by darrens99formul
I'm a little confused and maybe you can help clarify this for me. I'm not flaming here and I admit up front I know very little about Cobras so please help me understand this better. I was always under the impression (from what I have read) that stock LS1's run better then stock 99-01 Cobras. Now your telling me that it's the other way around. Stock 99-01 cobras run better ET's and equal or better traps then 98+ LS1's. Now what I want to know is how?
Mustang guys here have said the 99-01 cobra dynos 255-265 rwhp. The 99+ LS1's are anywhere from 280-320 rwhp but lets say 295 for the basis of my question. So if a LS1 dynos with 30-40 more rwhp then the cobra then how does it trap a mph less and et's a few tenths higher. Is it the weight of the mustangs? Gears?
When you hear 100 people all say stock 99 LS1's beat stock 99 cobras you tend to believe it. Your the first person I have ever read claiming the opposite that a standard stock LS1 can not beat a pre 03 cobra.
BTW the only way I could believe your 40mph roll story is if the ss was a automatic. 40mph catches him in a dead spot and out of his powerband as I all to well know with a 3.23 auto myself. Try that same race from a 60mph roll and you may see a very different outcome. Or drop it down to 25-30 mph and run em again as that is a nice sweet spot as well on the A4 LS1. But 31-45 is a dreadful spot to race from a roll in if your a LS1 auto with stock torque converter.
I'm a little confused and maybe you can help clarify this for me. I'm not flaming here and I admit up front I know very little about Cobras so please help me understand this better. I was always under the impression (from what I have read) that stock LS1's run better then stock 99-01 Cobras. Now your telling me that it's the other way around. Stock 99-01 cobras run better ET's and equal or better traps then 98+ LS1's. Now what I want to know is how?
Mustang guys here have said the 99-01 cobra dynos 255-265 rwhp. The 99+ LS1's are anywhere from 280-320 rwhp but lets say 295 for the basis of my question. So if a LS1 dynos with 30-40 more rwhp then the cobra then how does it trap a mph less and et's a few tenths higher. Is it the weight of the mustangs? Gears?
When you hear 100 people all say stock 99 LS1's beat stock 99 cobras you tend to believe it. Your the first person I have ever read claiming the opposite that a standard stock LS1 can not beat a pre 03 cobra.
BTW the only way I could believe your 40mph roll story is if the ss was a automatic. 40mph catches him in a dead spot and out of his powerband as I all to well know with a 3.23 auto myself. Try that same race from a 60mph roll and you may see a very different outcome. Or drop it down to 25-30 mph and run em again as that is a nice sweet spot as well on the A4 LS1. But 31-45 is a dreadful spot to race from a roll in if your a LS1 auto with stock torque converter.
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Originally posted by scott9050
Equal drivers I think the Cobra will pull in the second half of the track with the first 1/8th being very very close. I don't think it will pull too badly before the 1/4 is through, but after that 1/4 the gap would get bigger and bigger.
Equal drivers I think the Cobra will pull in the second half of the track with the first 1/8th being very very close. I don't think it will pull too badly before the 1/4 is through, but after that 1/4 the gap would get bigger and bigger.
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Originally posted by MauriSSio
no,umm closer to 45 HP and about 100lbs. nice try though
no,umm closer to 45 HP and about 100lbs. nice try though
'96-'96 Cobra puts out about 255 rwhp stock.
Rwhp is a lot better to be concerned with than manufacturers bs claims of flywheel hp.
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my friend justin dynod 266RWHP Bone stock 96 Cobra?what did you dyno?or are you just pulling numbers outta your ***? Who gives a **** about dynos,its already been proven Cobras trap at least 3mph faster.
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