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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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I can mail you the article if you give me your address, it's either in MM&FF or Super Ford. They tested the power ported heads, aftermarket cams and tons of other stuff and eventually came out with 320 rwhp. I know its hard to believe but they claimed that they did it. It was several months ago, I just have to find the article. True Blue Performance had just built one that was nearly 300 hp back in 2001 when I was still in North Carolina.
I was joking.... sheesh. I thought you know me better then that by now... hell, I've been on this board for who knows how long now muahaha.....
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 02:44 AM
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I was joking.... sheesh. I thought you know me better then that by now... hell, I've been on this board for who knows how long now muahaha.....
I figured you were but I was covering my bases just in case
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 05:02 AM
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heck even a stock 96-98 Cobra should be able to walk away from a stock LT1,if properly driven.
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Ha ha, Chris was right, you guys are full of it. It's pretty funny, you seem to have no problem believing Scott when he says he has an article about a heads/cam mustang laying down 320rwhp. I can't wait to tell him about that.

Oh, and just so you guys know, I was at the track when he ran his TA with the flowmaster, his first run was a 14.0 @ 105. And yeah, he did eventually run a 13.7 that evening. And as far as his power with the vortech, I didn't see the dyno run, but that car is crazy fast now. I can't wait till he finishes his turbocharged stroker for the car, that's going to be insane.

Still, thanks for the laughs. More power to the underpowered mustang!!! hahahahaha
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by scott9050
I can mail you the article if you give me your address, it's either in MM&FF or Super Ford. They tested the power ported heads, aftermarket cams and tons of other stuff and eventually came out with 320 rwhp.
Scott is right, for all the naysaying Chevy redneck, 2 i.q. morons. Gosh, there are a lot of them lately in here aren't there? I have the magazine at work. I can reference it tomorrow if anybody cares. It was 1 or 2 months ago in 5.0 Mustang magazine. You may even find it online at www.50mustangandsuperfords.com It was Anderson Ford Motorsport that did the testing. It is here. www.andersonfordmotorsport.com Just click on project vehicles.

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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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I got you by quoting "magazines"... Where did I ever imply that I was out to get you? I merely responded to a post. And how is it that when anyone quotes a source of information whether it's printed, filmed, or whatever everyone pulls the "it's a magazine, it can't possibly be right, my buddy's friend's uncle's girlfriend's ex husband did the same thing and got better results" card? I provide actual sources (one of them being a magazine that is predominately Ford) and you guys have the nerve to say I don't know what I'm talking about? That's some
You were talking about the slowest versions of the GTs in recent years, the '96-'98s. How convenient for you. Shall we talk about the V8 RS Camaros of the 80s and 90s? I don't think you want to. Those things were pathetic for a V8 performance car.


Originally posted by 97WS6SCharged

You know, the greatest thing Ford ever did was design/build the mustang. Know why? Because it made GM build the Camaro and Firebird. That's it, that's the mustang's greatest contribution to the automotive world. Thankyou Mr. Ford for providing the inspiration for two of the world's greatest automobiles (neither one of those carry a Ford badge by the way).
Whatever. Then why is the Mustang still around and the Camaro gone? I guess the Cobras from '93 on suck, right?


Originally posted by 97WS6SCharged

I will be completely honest about my car, I haven't run my car at the track with the supercharger because I have to work on the nights that the track is open (that's why I'm here now, responding to this post), so I don't know, you might actually run faster than me. My best/only run with the car was a 13.7 @ 106 with a flowmaster catback as the only mod on the car. I will tell you this, on 7 PSI of non intercooled/aftercooled boost, and on regular 93 octane pump gas, the TA did put down 441 hp and 463 ft/lb of torque. That was pretty fat with air/fuel ratio hovering around 10.9:1 on the wideband.
You could not call in sick even once in the past couple of years to run at the track? Also, I bet a lot of people would like to see your car do that 13.7 at 106 with the cat-back only. Put it back to that form of mods and let's see it in person. Again, how convenient that it was many mods ago and no proof.

Originally posted by 97WS6SCharged

Think what you will, I don't really care. I'm done with this post.

Later
Good riddance!
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Workingman
Ha ha, Chris was right, you guys are full of it. It's pretty funny, you seem to have no problem believing Scott when he says he has an article about a heads/cam mustang laying down 320rwhp. I can't wait to tell him about that.

Oh, and just so you guys know, I was at the track when he ran his TA with the flowmaster, his first run was a 14.0 @ 105. And yeah, he did eventually run a 13.7 that evening. And as far as his power with the vortech, I didn't see the dyno run, but that car is crazy fast now. I can't wait till he finishes his turbocharged stroker for the car, that's going to be insane.

Still, thanks for the laughs. More power to the underpowered mustang!!! hahahahaha
This is probably the same guy with the 7 psi blower. Go away newbie troll!
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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LOL....sometimes I just can't help talking like a teenager. It's Sunday, I'm bored, so here goes.

Originally posted by 97WS6SCharged
First of all, don't call me cowboy, it sounds homosexual coming from a guy, and I don't want to be assiciated with someone on/in a mustang.
I'm sure he is sorry for doing that. I'll try and keep it in mind too, Junior.

Second, it's not that I don't like the mustang, the lines are good and it's a nice ride and all, but the 4.6 SOHC motor is garbage.
That "garbage" motor is now putting Mustangs into the 8's on ported stock heads using the stock block. Do you understand what kind of power that takes?

Ford rates them at 260 hp and most will dyno 180 at the wheels.
Whatever credibility you might have once had just went down the proverbial tube. 99+ GTs are rated at 260 and routinely make 225-235 RWHP stock. You incorrectly used 96-98 225 HP SOHC numbers. Oops.

The GT is not a performance car. Get over it.
Then neither is your LT1. As has been stated many, many times, a bone stock 99+ GT M5 is a great race for a bone stock LT1 M6. You can stick your head in the mud and pretend it isn't so all you want. Then again, when all you have is magazines, TV, and the internet to fall back on, what is one to do?

Now a cobra with its 4 valve heads and IRS is a much better match for an LT1.
Actually, it's an overmatch. Also, the IRS is a liability in a drag race. A better match is a 96-98 Cobra. My 98 Cobra ran 13.6 104 mph in 100% bone stock trim - including filter. What did your car run in 100% bone stock trim?

It almost always comes down to the driver, but I'd still give the LT1 a bit of an edge cause it has more torque.
Remember my talking about credibility above? You just lost some more. Tell me....what does "having more torque" have to do with it? Do you understand what HP is? Ever heard of torque * rpm and what that does? Do you race at 3000 rpm?

Bueller?

Lastly, I can provide at least two national sources of GT's that are supercharged and not making 300 rwhp.

1. Project Nightmare on Horsepower TV... 285(or 6) rwhp

2. An install that National Dragster did on a GT.. 284 rwhp

Both were dynoed on a Dynojet chasis dyno.
I suggest continuing to get all your info from those two souces. We need the cannon fodder.

Ps. Even Vortech doesn't claim 300 hp on their non intercooled 6-8 PSI kits. On their 10 PSI HO intercooled kit they only claim 323 hp. I'll give them the benefit and say it's rear wheel hp, but I'm skeptical.
If you're skeptical, I'm probably convinced. If you're convinced, I'm most definately skeptical. Get the picture?

However, lets go back to the credibilty thing. You're once again looking at the older, 96-98 stuff (even though Vortech doesn't make a 6-8 psi kit). The 99+ GT kit (we are talking about 99+, right?) is rated by Vortech at 364 HP.

FYI - the numbers Vortech gives are not RWHP - they are flywheel.

And how is it that when anyone quotes a source of information whether it's printed, filmed, or whatever everyone pulls the "it's a magazine, it can't possibly be right, my buddy's friend's uncle's girlfriend's ex husband did the same thing and got better results" card? I provide actual sources (one of them being a magazine that is predominately Ford) and you guys have the nerve to say I don't know what I'm talking about? That's some
LOL. You just slammed yourself and you likely don't even realize it. Why? Because you don't know what you're talking about, as has been shown in this post.

FYI...magazines, the internet, and TV can be useful references, but they are not the end all.

You know, the greatest thing Ford ever did was design/build the mustang. Know why? Because it made GM build the Camaro and Firebird. That's it, that's the mustang's greatest contribution to the automotive world. Thankyou Mr. Ford for providing the inspiration for two of the world's greatest automobiles (neither one of those carry a Ford badge by the way).
I hear Wal Mart is running a special on glasses that cure brand-blindness. You should go check em out, Junior.

I will be completely honest about my car
I suspect you won't be. Let's see.

I haven't run my car at the track with the supercharger because I have to work on the nights that the track is open (that's why I'm here now, responding to this post), so I don't know, you might actually run faster than me.
I believe that you haven't run your car at the track. We're doing good so far.

My best/only run with the car was a 13.7 @ 106 with a flowmaster catback as the only mod on the car.
Oh well, it only lasted one line. 106 with only a catback? You either....

a) Have the worlds most powerful stock LT1
b) Used a G-Tech to get that mph
c) Are lying through your teeth

"I'll take c) for a thousand dollars, Alex"

I will tell you this, on 7 PSI of non intercooled/aftercooled boost, and on regular 93 octane pump gas, the TA did put down 441 hp and 463 ft/lb of torque. That was pretty fat with air/fuel ratio hovering around 10.9:1 on the wideband.
Prove it, Junior.

Think what you will, I don't really care. I'm done with this post.
Well thank you. I will think what I will, and I doubt you're done. But time shall tell.

You have a wonderul day.

Next....

Originally posted by Workingman
Ha ha, Chris was right, you guys are full of it. It's pretty funny, you seem to have no problem believing Scott when he says he has an article about a heads/cam mustang laying down 320rwhp. I can't wait to tell him about that.

Oh, and just so you guys know, I was at the track when he ran his TA with the flowmaster, his first run was a 14.0 @ 105. And yeah, he did eventually run a 13.7 that evening. And as far as his power with the vortech, I didn't see the dyno run, but that car is crazy fast now. I can't wait till he finishes his turbocharged stroker for the car, that's going to be insane.

Still, thanks for the laughs. More power to the underpowered mustang!!! hahahahaha
Is there any pimple-faced kid on this site that DOES NOT have a car that isn't going to have a "turbocharged stroker for his car"? I'm sure he's having wet dreams about it, but then again, I had those too when I was 15 years old.

Mr Newbie troll....before anybody is going to believe you, you have to have some credibility. Go to www.dictionary.com and look it up, then come back when you've found some.

And you have a wonderful day too, ya hear?
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by MauriSSio
heck even a stock 96-98 Cobra should be able to walk away from a stock LT1,if properly driven.
The 96-98 mustangs run low 15's, and an lt1 runs low 14's, so unless the driver of the lt1 is horrible I can't see that happening. Because My buddy has a 95 3.8 with cat-back, 3.42's, and cai and we walk those things daily. Not trying to go against mustangs I like them but I am just telling you the experiences I have had.
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by BiGGinZ
The 96-98 mustangs run low 15's, and an lt1 runs low 14's, so unless the driver of the lt1 is horrible I can't see that happening. Because My buddy has a 95 3.8 with cat-back, 3.42's, and cai and we walk those things daily. Not trying to go against mustangs I like them but I am just telling you the experiences I have had.
Hey Slick, might want to re-read that post. There is a 5 letter word in there that might be of interest, and it's not GT
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by BiGGinZ
The 96-98 mustangs run low 15's, and an lt1 runs low 14's, so unless the driver of the lt1 is horrible I can't see that happening. Because My buddy has a 95 3.8 with cat-back, 3.42's, and cai and we walk those things daily. Not trying to go against mustangs I like them but I am just telling you the experiences I have had.
I tell you the experience I had with my 98 when it was bone stock to the air filter. 14.2@97 mph. Yes, that's a 98 GT/SOHC. That is only my experience though, results may vary.
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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Ha ha, Chris was right, you guys are full of it. It's pretty funny, you seem to have no problem believing Scott when he says he has an article about a heads/cam mustang laying down 320rwhp. I can't wait to tell him about that.

Oh, and just so you guys know, I was at the track when he ran his TA with the flowmaster, his first run was a 14.0 @ 105. And yeah, he did eventually run a 13.7 that evening. And as far as his power with the vortech, I didn't see the dyno run, but that car is crazy fast now. I can't wait till he finishes his turbocharged stroker for the car, that's going to be insane.

Still, thanks for the laughs. More power to the underpowered mustang!!! hahahahaha
And I find it funny that you with no posts and just registered are in here defending him. I am willing to bet that you 2 are one in the same.
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by BiGGinZ
The 96-98 mustangs run low 15's, and an lt1 runs low 14's, so unless the driver of the lt1 is horrible I can't see that happening. Because My buddy has a 95 3.8 with cat-back, 3.42's, and cai and we walk those things daily. Not trying to go against mustangs I like them but I am just telling you the experiences I have had.
So you are trying to claim that a 305 hp Cobra is only running low 15's My buddies 96 was running 8.8 at 82 in the 1/8th bone dead stock after he learned how to drive the damn thing. Yep, a 3.8 is going to beat that
Old Feb 15, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by scott9050
So you are trying to claim that a 305 hp Cobra is only running low 15's My buddies 96 was running 8.8 at 82 in the 1/8th bone dead stock after he learned how to drive the damn thing. Yep, a 3.8 is going to beat that
Obviously I was talking about a gt. But anyways about the cobras. A stock 96 cobra vs. a stock 96 ss.... The SS has the advantage so I still think it is hard to say that a 96-98 cobra can with the right driver walk any lt1.



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