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Old May 11, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by BLACKBIRD8200
Who cares it's a prelude for gods sake!! All ricers try to do is get as fast as a V8.
whats the definition of a ricer? because it sounds like you are saying its someone who drives a honda.
Old May 11, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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Im not calling you childish or telling you to grow up per se. my comment was a general one. it was directed to those that it applies to. honda beats an fbody and the fbody owners show thier maturity level. this thread is an example so are the other dozens ones in the archive. juvenile name calling and flaming and bashing etc all because a honda beats a camaro. I just dont see why someone cant just congradulate and move on to another thread.
Old May 11, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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If a honda wants to race me then lets go! one of us is going to win. If i do then what (OH YES I JUST KICKED A HONDA'S ***) No don't think so i just kept driven. Now turn the tables the honda kicks my *** what do you get (him running his mouth on how his little 4 banger just beat my ***) They come looking for trouble, and thats what they find!!Not that if i do get beat i'm all pissed. I'm cool with that, theirs always somebody faster weather it's a honda or a vette, But it always the ricers that run their mouths, they have some thing to prove not me.And by ricers i mean young kids with a nos sticker and big wheel on their s mom's honda,that would be lucky to do the 1/4 in 20 seconds


If you built a car from nothing to something and you can run with the V8-V10 then good for you!! Just don't try to race every car you see!
If and when i do get beat by 4,6 banger, when the race is over i'll give him a thumbs up and congradulate him, as a vette or viper would do for me!!
Old May 11, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by BLACKBIRD8200
If a honda wants to race me then lets go! one of us is going to win. If i do then what (OH YES I JUST KICKED A HONDA'S ***) No don't think so i just kept driven. Now turn the tables the honda kicks my *** what do you get (him running his mouth on how his little 4 banger just beat my ***) They come looking for trouble, and thats what they find!!Not that if i do get beat i'm all pissed. I'm cool with that, theirs always somebody faster weather it's a honda or a vette, But it always the ricers that run their mouths, they have some thing to prove not me.And by ricers i mean young kids with a nos sticker and big wheel on their s mom's honda,that would be lucky to do the 1/4 in 20 seconds


If you built a car from nothing to something and you can run with the V8-V10 then good for you!! Just don't try to race every car you see!
If and when i do get beat by 4,6 banger, when the race is over i'll give him a thumbs up and congradulate him, as a vette or viper would do for me!!
Good spirit.

As for me, when I was building my civic I knew where I was going with it and I told myself I wouldnt race fbodys out of respect. but what actually happend was.... I was a moving target. just minding my own business I would get guys in stangs and fbodys wanting to instill into me who owns the streets, even though I didnt rev or cut anyone off or anything to draw attention. I actually found out who owned the street each time.. me.. I know take much delight in racing v8 guys because its a much more rewarding feeling when you wipe the cocky smirk of thier faces. much more rewarding that beating a clueless ricer in the ws6. my car is black so is my intercooler and my blow off valve is set to soft. so it just appears and sounds like near stock all motor honda. until I get on the throttle at which point its too late boost is a wonderfull thing. its fun, the car is fun. I wouldnt give up either car.

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Old May 11, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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preludes are 2.2 litres, GSR's are 1.8 litres. this GSR made 449whp on 14 psi on 9:1 compression link

but an H22 cant make 379whp on 9psi with stock 10.0 compression??

maybe you need to mod turbo cars for 8 more years.
A H22 motor can make 379whp on 9psi with 10.0 compression but it won't do it for very long, like 5-10,000miles. Believe me I was into imports very much so until I bought my Z28. Turbo Honda's can be made very fast but they require what just about every other non-turbo vehicle from factory does, and that is a built bottom end. I think what everyone on here is trying to say that to get a Honda to run with a V8 rwd car, it needs more major mods to get the job done plain and simple. Sure that H22 motor made that kind of power but put a turbo on a LS1 with 9psi and you will have what, 500rwhp atleast. Probably around 550rwhp which has been proven time and time again enough for 10's in the 1/4 for a fully equiped car with A/C. The motor on it will only last 5-10,000 miles also, but if you want to compare a built V8 with boost and a built I4 with boost, then I don't care what you say, the V8 will spank it everytime. Unless of course the I4 is running a Civic Hatch with 30psi and the V8 is a #3700 pig with only 19psi then it might be a good race.

I can see it now, someone is going to post a reply with a hatch import with boost running 8's in the 1/4 trying to make me sound stupid but I don't care, I seen the light
Old May 11, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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you assume that you know what my motives are (and you are quite wrong, btw). well, just so that i don't assume things, how in the hell did you get all of that above bull**** out of what i have posted here?? you are taking some pretty big leaps, buddy. and i need to grow up?? how am i being childish? direct quotes for my posts to support your point of view please so that no words get put into my mouth.

and i feel pretty sure that 87camracer can speak for himself as opposed to having someone else to take up for him, don't you think? i asked a pretty simple question and i want to know what he drives that he can call ANY 11 second car in any aspect of it's straight line performance slow. everything is relative... i'm trying to get his perspective. how is that wrong?
what my car runs doesnt matter at all and is irrelevent to this thread. lets just say it isnt fast. in fact it hasnt moved in 4 days. but thats another thread for another time.

what you neglect to mention is the fact that i NEVER said my car was faster than the 11 second cars i was talking. NOT ONCE EVER. matter-of-factly i said that i give MAJOR respect to a car that runs 11s at 130mph and while i will give a few props to a car that runs 11s at 115 mph it doesnt thrill me like the first car did. why? they both run 11s. hell they could both run the exact same et and i would still rather have the one trapping 130.

let me ask you this. if 2 cars lined up on the street. one is a camaro running 11.57@116mph and the other is a civic running 11.57@130mph, who is going to win the race?

as far as a guy in a ford ranger saying my car is slow, i dont give a sh*t really. i know my car is faster than what his truck will ever be. and i dont really give two sh*ts about what others think of my car.
Old May 11, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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A H22 motor can make 379whp on 9psi with 10.0 compression but it won't do it for very long, like 5-10,000miles. Believe me I was into imports very much so until I bought my Z28. Turbo Honda's can be made very fast but they require what just about every other non-turbo vehicle from factory does, and that is a built bottom end. I think what everyone on here is trying to say that to get a Honda to run with a V8 rwd car, it needs more major mods to get the job done plain and simple. Sure that H22 motor made that kind of power but put a turbo on a LS1 with 9psi and you will have what, 500rwhp atleast. Probably around 550rwhp which has been proven time and time again enough for 10's in the 1/4 for a fully equiped car with A/C. The motor on it will only last 5-10,000 miles also, but if you want to compare a built V8 with boost and a built I4 with boost, then I don't care what you say, the V8 will spank it everytime. Unless of course the I4 is running a Civic Hatch with 30psi and the V8 is a #3700 pig with only 19psi then it might be a good race.
you know boost is a funny thing. nothing is hurt until you start predetonating. THAT is what breaks parts. wanna know what else is funny? boost from a turbo is created by load. NOT rpms. so if your engine isnt expierencing and load or very little you ARENT making boost. guess what? then its an NA motor. mind showing me where the bad reliability comes in?

I can see it now, someone is going to post a reply with a hatch import with boost running 8's in the 1/4 trying to make me sound stupid but I don't care, I seen the light
what light is that? an lt1 with headers and a catback? wow thats the light huh? i would rather see darkness.
Old May 11, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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hysr please explain to me how a properly tuned motor will just fail. do you understand what makes motors blow? its detonation, which is brought on by excess heat, from too much cylinder pressure which can be brought on from heated inlet air(insuffcient intercooler), lack of fuel, too much timing advance etc etc. having higher static compression creates heat which will easily promote detontation. however. all these thinsg can be dealt with by having you air fuel ratio near perfect and enough timing pulled for each pound of boost you run. i.e tuning the car.

a motor will not just fail if there is no detonation. what will happen is pistons rings and bearing with wear faster than it normally (assuming everyone drives as hard as I do) but the motor wont blow what would happen and I mean after thousands and thousands of miles is the piston ring may not seal as well causing you to lose a bit of compression and reducing your power.. basically it would act like a 3rd gen camaro that has 200k original miles on it.. will run but not as strong as when it was new. a properly tuned motor will not last only 5-10k miles I can assure you of that.

Simple process of deduction.. detonation blows motors.. if there is no detonation then what happens to the motor?

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Old May 11, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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what light is that? an lt1 with headers and a catback? wow thats the light huh? i would rather see darkness.
Wow you sir are a *****. Go find another Honda hatch that runs 9s,10s,11s, or 12s with only $5000 invested in it please. Go make another post about a turbo'd B series Honda motor that runs whatever in the 1/4 on a Camaro site. Sorry I don't have all the money in the world to make my car run 10's, get 30mpg off boost, never break because its a Honda and sound like my dad blowing his nose. Oh wait, that would only cost $5000, I guess I've seen the light now, looser I never bashed your car but yet you seem to bash mine. Go praise another import that you don't own and try to make yourself feel proud. I hope if you have kids that they turn out to be homosexuals/dikes, your wife gets a sex-change, and you get herpes. Troll

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ANY time you want me to show you the light I will race your POS 91 T/A. What does it run? 15's? Haha, I know of diesel trucks that will make your car look sad

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Old May 11, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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hysr please explain to me how a properly tuned motor will just fail. do you understand what makes motors blow? its detonation, which is brought on by excess heat, from too much cylinder pressure which can be brought on from heated inlet air(insuffcient intercooler), lack of fuel, too much timing advance etc etc. having higher static compression creates heat which will easily promote detontation. however. all these thinsg can be dealt with by having you air fuel ratio near perfect and enough timing pulled for each pound of boost you run. i.e tuning the car.

a motor will not just fail if there is no detonation. what will happen is pistons rings and bearing with wear faster than it normally (assuming everyone drives as hard as I do) but the motor wont blow what would happen and I mean after thousands and thousands of miles is the piston ring may not seal as well causing you to lose a bit of compression and reducing your power.. basically it would act like a 3rd gen camaro that has 200k original miles on it.. will run but not as strong as when it was new. a properly tuned motor will not last only 5-10k miles I can assure you of that.

Simple process of deduction.. detonation blows motors.. if there is no detonation then what happens to the motor?

Yes I understand what you are saying but sadly there isn't enough good dyno tuners out there that can make everyone's car run great. I'm not saying every motor will go after 5-10,000miles, but I have seen quite a few. I'm glad to see you can have a nice reply unlike 87camracer.
Old May 11, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Wow you sir are a *****. Go find another Honda hatch that runs 9s,10s,11s, or 12s with only $5000 invested in it please. Go make another post about a turbo'd B series Honda motor that runs whatever in the 1/4 on a Camaro site. Sorry I don't have all the money in the world to make my car run 10's, get 30mpg off boost, never break because its a Honda and sound like my dad blowing his nose. Oh wait, that would only cost $5000, I guess I've seen the light now, looser I never bashed your car but yet you seem to bash mine. Go praise another import that you don't own and try to make yourself feel proud. I hope if you have kids that they turn out to be homosexuals/dikes, your wife gets a sex-change, and you get herpes. Troll
LMFAO! you know whats funny? you can sit here and bash anyones car all you want. but when someone does it to your car its a whole nother story isnt? when someone does it to your car, hes gonna rott in hell along with his gay children and herpes infected wife. you sir are a hypocrit.

as far as being a troll? whos been here longer ***?
Old May 11, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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as far as being a troll? whos been here longer ***?
Wow you must be better than me. You praise imports but own a 91 T/A. And you have been here a little over a year longer. I guess I should leave since you have superiority over me
Old May 11, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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Wow you must be better than me. You praise imports but own a 91 T/A. And you have been here a little over a year longer. I guess I should leave since you have superiority over me
Imports and domestics both kickass. can we end this now.
Old May 11, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Wow you must be better than me. You praise imports but own a 91 T/A. And you have been here a little over a year longer. I guess I should leave since you have superiority over me
um where did i say any of that? i never once told you anything of the sort. yet you can call me a troll? why is that? because i posted about something that you dont believe in? get over yourself buddy. me being here longer than you means nothing other than how im the complete opposite of a troll.
Old May 12, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Never mind this argument is stupid. My original post was deleted. Carry on.

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