The point of my post was not to say that I have a freak car, it was the fact that the cobra had a better 60 foot and I still kept up with him with my z. His mods were again intake, catback, and pulleys. FOr my mods read my sig. My post was a question, wtf is my car so fast. ANy hidden mods that I don't know ab0out and what could they be.

 

C5s can easily exceed 110 in the 1/4 and fbodys have trapped that high also in stock form.no cobras do not trap 5 mph higher on avg.

 

Last year at thr track LS1's were running right with Cobras. Not to mention the Cobras are putting down some pretty pathetic numbers.

Again and again, stock vs stock there is no real winner!


Beat the hell out of both cars and they run within tenths if not hundredths of eachother. It's really kind of stupid to think a car with what 50HP more can be so bad ***.

 

I am a die hard f-bod man , And I think the LS1 is the greatest engine EVER . But I was on a sight that showed the Cobra put down more HP on the dyno then the Z06 .
Although the z06 makes more all around power and the mustang is more of a " dyno queen " It does not put down bad numbers . You have to appreciate a car that is 33 grand and can put down a 12.7 stock with the right driver . They are slightly faster then the stock LS1 cars , way faster then some . A few bolt ons my get ya there , but the cobra is still a fast SOB stock there is no getting around that one . Me and all of my Die hard f-bod friends aroun here know all about it . Denail is a thing of the past . Thats why Robb is getting 6 lbs of boost this upcoming week .

 

Yeah there impressive, heck I just about bought one but. They aren't street gods like some think they are. They are supercharged duh it will be fast!

 

Ok then, 3 or 4 mph higher on average.

 

You can't accept the facts about the '03 Cobras, can you. You have posted so much bs about them in the past on this board it is pathetic. They have dynoed as high as 383 rwhp stock. The highest I have seen for a stock LS1 is 321 rwhp. They weigh about 230 more lbs. than an LS1 stock for stock. With great drivers in both the Cobra will win by about .5 and 4 mph in the 1/4, stock for stock. The truth is a bitter pill to swallow.

 

Not necessarily. Power to weight is way more important than supercharged or not.

 

Wow finally Steve Y posted. And 3 times in a row!

Sorry 60HP more what a difference. And what BS do I post?

It's people like you that **** people like me off.

Do you really think that 60HP is alot? A crappy driver could have 100HP and still lose.

Like I said before beat the hell out of both cars and see how close they really are.

 

Yeah 60 horsepower is hardly anything. The Cobra does weigh about 250 more lbs. than the LS1 so in effect it cuts it's advantage down to about 35 horsepower.

You post bs about how the Cobra and LS1 are the same in the 1/4 mile stock for stock. They are not, with equal drivers. Why do I **** you off? Because I tell the truth and you can't handle it? Don't get mad at me because the Cobra will beat the LS1 stock for stock. Deal with the truth, don't hide from it. Cody, the truth will set you free. "Beating the hell out of both cars", they are about .5 and 4 mph different in the 1/4. MMFF already did this test. They REALLY beat cars.

 

ok,ill agree.


cobras dyno on average about 50 more hp than ls1s and weigh 200+ lbs more.


stock m6s dyno around 310-320 some more,some less.cobras 360-370 some more some less ect.


to backup my claim i spoke to an 03 cobra owner recently and he told me it dynoed at 366 stock.

yes there are extremes but im talking averages.

 

There were 2 Cobras that dynoed 35#rwhp in my area.

 

Wow, another '03 Cobra v.s. LS1 thread! I thought this stuf had been put to rest. Oh well...

From my personal experience, LS1s and '03 Cobras are GENERALLY pretty close in ET stock for stock. I'm not talking about Mario Andretti or Evan Smith drivers, I'm saying realworld avg drivers. I've personally seen Cobras go as slow as 13.3-.4 in stock form, and as fast as 12.8-.9. On the same token, I've seen LS1s go 12.8-.9 stock, and as slow as 13.8-.9. We've all heard of rag times from the '03 Cobra, mid 12s or so, right. Well that's great. But that doesn't concern me too much if I pulled up beside one on the street/strip with avg Joe Shmoe drivers. In a realworld race the cars are with tenths ET wise. I would expect the Cobra to have a little more MPH than the LS1, but there again, the fastest I've personally seen was around 109ish. I've seen LS1s trap that fast stock, BUT GENERALLY I would say its more like 105-107 stock for the LS1.

As far as mods go, the Cobra is without a doubt cheaper to mod to get more HP. Naturally, the fact that it's force inducted plays a role with that.

From what I've heard, the weight is what mainly hurts the Cobra. Everything I've read or heard from a owner, indicates that the weight is a problem. I've seen curb weights in rags anywhere from 3,9K on up. Generally, F-bodies tend to be in the 3,5-3,6K lb range. That's a several hundred lb difference. Thus, the "pig" cliche' for the Cobra. It's HP does make up for some of those "rolls", but it seems unpractical for a car, whose one of many specialties is straightline acceleration, to weigh that much.


Anywhoo, to each his own...




Jon

 

my friends LS1 (99 T/A) weighed in at 3800lbs with him in it (190-200lbs.). From what Ive read, 03 Cobras weigh about 3650-3700 w/o driver.

 

Well with my mods (very little) I have no problem with stock Cobras. Throw a pulley on one and I am toast, but thats how it should be.