you have to be a hater to own an LS1. IMO the bulk of them on this site brag about what their car could do with cash and mods, or what their cousins - buddies - roommates car can do.

 

Well I know for a fact the car with the most HP will not always win on the street. I've cars with less HP beat cars with a lot more running at least an 1/8 th of a mile.

 

I'm just wondering what mods it takes for a lt1 to beat an ls1 without people bitching. come on sometimes a faster car loses!! or sometimes its not a faster car.

 

Headers, ORY, GOOD Catback, CAI, and you would stick with MOST stock LS1 cars ... Some of the M6 WS6's and stuff would still have it in the 1/4 mile. Throw in a tune, some 1.6 RR's and good springs, TB and EWP. And then tell them to al lshut the **** up because I dont care what anyone says, a STOCK LS1 is NOT beating a LT1 with those mods. No way, no how. I raced a LS1 car once, and stayed dead even to 90ish with only a CAI, Headers, ORY, and my FLOWMASTER catback. We both went from a 15ish roll so driver error on the launch is rolled out, and it wasnt like either of us were gaining ground on the shifts ...

LS1's are fast. But even if you have a cammed LT1, no one will believe you if you say you beat one. Get used to it, and learn to like being the under dog. If they give you too much ****, you can always say that your car still sounds better. There is no argueing that. LT1 sounds WAY better than an LS1 car.

 

whats an ORY & ERP?

 

Okay I have something to add, tonight just 15 min ago 4am I was coming home from gym late workout any way there is a t/a ahead about half a mile down the road. now I get closer to look and see what im up against. I notice hes an auto probably because I downshifted to see if he would I fell two cars back he takes off im in top of third, I start to charge him up I got to his door before he let off and then I pointed to him like lets go he went straight, I know he had exhaust on there no headers, and I charged him like a can of freon I just put on shaft mounted rockers and the car pulls crazy up top, it just showed right there that my 3800 pound car had no problem with that ls1 so maybe if he had a cam It would have been a diffrent story but then again I might be sparying later.. Anyways I disagree what hardcore says maybe in the quarter mile they would still get you nope. I have every possible bolt on you can put except a ewp electric water pump I have hookers with borla exhaust by far the best combo for all out racing no cats and a good tune and 4.11s and full suspension and the only ls1 that has ever spanked me was my buddies with 125 shot and with a dyno of 375 to wheels all motor. And he had to spray me to pass me.

 

Tony get 4.11s start modding you suspension and get 52mm holley tb and put some shaft mounted rockers on there the car is very stable with shaft mounted rockers go to whiteperformance.com and get the 1.52 full roller shaft mounted rockers and stick them on, I know there not 1.6s but you dont want to put anymore strain on the valvetrain. You have to modify the valvecovers in order to get them to clear.

 

im from hanford.. which is half an hour away from fresno.. but i moved out to the central coast.. i sometimes still go out there to visit family... need to meet up 93redBirdMan

 

How can you say that there's no arguing something that is a matter of opinion?

I happen to prefer the sound of an LS1 over the sound of an LT1.

Heck, some people prefer the sound of a Civic with a coffee-can exhaust over an LT1.

 

^ Jake Robb ~ Because 99% of people prefer LT1 sound over an LS1 sound. LT1's have the old style firing order and sound like old-school muscle.

LS1's sound too refined or something. They lost the old school V8 tone or something. Definatly definatly sounds differnet, and most people will agree that LT1s sound better lol ... I did say it as a joke at first, but the more I think about it, LT1's really do sound way better.

 

Bring me any stock ls1 around stlouis and i'll stomp the **** out of it. My mods mac mids, moroso cai, and dr's. I'm not joking find me a stock ls1 around stlouis, it will be atleast 2 cars.

Due to the fact there are retards out there with ****y running lt1's we all get a bad rap. Its not our fault most stock lt1's are running around with over 130k on the stock plugs and wires.

 

omg it was a damn bolt on car, boy thats highly modded right there.

 

Id luv to see your mod list. It wouldnt take 125 shot. That would mean the LS1 has to have 470+ hp to outrun your bolt on Lt1..hmm..not likely.

Not gonna call BS on this story because anything can happen on the street.You didnt beat the car you beat the crappy driver. With the being said all you DIe hard LT1 guys who refuse the LS1 as a way superior engine come back to planet earth. Im so sick of hearing the whining. Just because you beat the car doesnt mean your is faster. A real measure of performance is track times. There is your braggin rights. Just because you beat some guy who couldt drive to save his life dont give you a faster car it makes you a better driver.

I have owned 4 LT1's and am a current owner of a 97 TA,Love my LT1. ALso own a LS1 and hate to tell you people this but there is no comparison. My buddies stock 98 LS1 auto makes my 97 feel slow and I have a hp3 tune,cai and airfoil. His car is stock. When I bought the 99 I had a 95 Camaro Z28 M6 with headers,gears.clutch,tune and my stock LS1 pulled badly from a roll. I sold it to a friend of mine and we took them both to the track after I put a lid and a Catback on the LS1 I raced the camaro.From a roll@10 mph I demolished him. At the track I was on street tires and he was on slicks. He pulled a 1.9 60 and I pulled a 2.4. I ran a 13.1@109 Vs his 13.0@105. Even though he waxed me off the line because of his slicks and gears I caught him so fast after recovering from a tire demolishing it wasnt even funny.

I did however beat a few LS1's in the LT1. One was a 01 SS and I know his car was faster then mine. It was on the interstate where LS1's pretty much rule but the Z beat him badly. Im realistic so I know for a fact it was me not the car. Thats what most of you people dont realise who have never owned anything but an LT1.

My 99 running thrue stock cats with just a few small bolt ons was faster then the majority of the cammed LT1's in my area. Owning is beleiving.

Dont take this the wrong way I love the LT1 and I have big plans for mine but Im a realist.

 

Good for you. 16+ pds of boost and you can beat an Na engine.
I like lighnings. They are neat for what they are but no matter what you do its still a truck and has limited potential due to the fact it is. Id love to beat up on your lightning in my cammed LS1 Due to the fact I have seen these kind of statements come from you in many other threads over the last few years.

 

Sure it is boosted and let's just pretend it does not weigh over 4700 lbs with ****ty aerodynamics. But heh, I guess my 65 lbs rim/tires (EACH) don't help much...or my power robbing Dana 60...or the 4.5" driveshaft? Those things don't have much of an effect...

Again schmuckstick...point out where I said I can beat every LS1? Instead yapping about beating my Lightning which is 10 times the vehicle you own, how about maybe trying to beat my lowly LT1?