ZeeDub

its unbelievable...... what a bunch of goons... keep it up... the keyboard courage intimidates me.......

ZeeDub

and on another note... i never said my TBI 305 could beat or even stay neck and neck with an LT1.... the loss wasnt all that bad, is all i was saying..... most 3rd gens couldnt keep up with me, or didnt have the ***** to..... i take my driving to the extreme..... and no i dont care what you think of its safety on the street, the way i see it? we all gotta die sometime... and if it was doing something i enjoyed then **** it... i wont have anything to regret now will i? but i dont usually endanger other people... as in driving on the wrong side of the freeway or somethin... but the fact is that LT1 wasnt modded, was an automatic, may have had some other issues with it, but nothing visable... and he was only about 2 - 3 car lengths ahead of me.... steadily pulling, but LS1s would take off and be 6 car lengths ahead before i hit 3rd gear.... (hot LS1s anyways...) im speaking in terms of driving skill... not HP... that guy couldnt drive his auto any better than i could drive my stick... and that says a lot about him.... i KNOW that car coulda took me downa hell of a lot worse than he did... and he DID take me down, but not like he was supposed to..... because i knew how to drive what i had, and he didnt... end of story...

toneloc12345

have you ever considered professional bracket racing? Seeing how you take your driving skills to the extreme....

TONY

haha don't you think its funny about how you point out that the LT1 that you "kept up with" was an auto (as in slower than M6), but now you have an auto LT1 and it's F-ing fast?

ZeeDub

i would like to.. but seeing as how i cant make it to the track every weekend or even once a month to run my car (lack of funds) how am i supposed to get into anything but street racing? stoplight to stoplight... most i pay is car parts and gas.... i just dont have the money for anything else.... but hey, one day then i can throw 10 grand under my hood and be pulling 10s then it will be worth my time at the track...

Bob Cosby

Inaccurate statement. I said that you could not beat a stock LT1 F-body with a mostly-stock LO3 92 RS M5 (about the same weight, about the same gearing, about 100 HP difference). The only caveat to that is if

A) The LT1 wasn't racing
B) The LT1 driver totally screwed up
C) The LT1 had a very major mechanical problem.

I stand by my conclusion. You are welcome to stand by yours. Those that read this will come to their own conclusions.

Assuming that I am the idiot to which you refer, and that you are the one to claim to have done the above, then I stick by my claim that it is BS.

Completely indefensible claim. Further, see above statements.

In addition to my A) and B) above, those are possibilities, though I suspect the LT1 would still beat you with "vaccuum leaks, or a blown head gasket, or a fuccin dead cylinder... or just a bad driver...".

I believe that to be an inaccurate statement, as you continue to reply to my posts.

I'm sure you are.

This is fortunate.

You are doing a very poor job of it. Kindly refer to previously posted advice on a recommended course of action to obtain this goal.

I am sure you believe this. I am sure I do not.

Basic physics dictates otherwise.

Correct. This is no different than saying that your 170 HP 3500 lb car could not keep up with a 275 3500 lb car.

Please see basic physics statement above.

I'm sorry.

This is inaccurate, as you just did reply to my bullsh|t (your word, not mine).

We have a point of agreement.

We have two points of agreement.

That is an inaccurate statement, as I don't believe that you have been or done much of what you claim.

Correct.

Ok, I will.

Could you point them out to us, please?

I'm not great, and by any reasonable measure, what you claim is not possible.

You're certainly welcome.

Good evening.

mergleh00SS

^... LOL
line by line... just the way i like it

Mighty

It does NOT get any better than that.

scott9050

ZeeDub trying to Battle Bob......It's like a midget getting it's nuts stomped by a Clydesdale

Josh-'04 GTO

OMFG! This thread is KILLING me! I love it!

Well, I better go do some mods to my LT1 so that I don't get taken down by any TBI 305s....

Kris93/95Z28

This thread gives me headache... hard to read... Run on sentence... Hard to read... Please learn English.... makes post easier to read... please be kind to those trying to read... thanks....

stone4779

Hey Zeedub why dont you just meet up with one of my buddies who has a stock LS1 in the Ptown area? Then you can prove yourself.

I mean theres is no way anywone will EVER believe you beating even a stock LS1 unless you do something like that....or post a timeslip.

Not knocking on you or anything, Im just saying..You have a hard time believing LS1s are high 12 cars stock. So back it up. There are plenty of people that would be willing to back up the LS1 but very, very few back up the LT1 in this case.

Again, Im not hating on you, but Im providing a good means of settling this.

You meet up with someone with a stock/lightly modded LS1, be it auto or stick, and run them.

Come back, report the results, and you will be vindicated.

simple.

Otherwise, the BS will just rattle on and on.....and on...

Although it is VERY entertaining to read you guys go back and forth

I was just entertained while I read this thread(about 30 mins of slow reading while drinking my Dr. Pepper and smoking my Marlboro Lights and relaxing)

Snorman

If I may interject, and I'm quite suprised given your usually lucid replies, but this statement contradicts your previous claim regarding the race with the LT1.
I'll refresh your memory.
I would recommend that you proofread your posts for accuracy and correlation with prior lies, fibs, exaggerations and fabrications before hitting the "Submit" button.
S.

stone4779

I noticed that too but I didnt want to say anything, plus I didnt want to go back and quote...too lazy

Judge-Jury-Executioner

True, There's only enough rooom at CZ for one of us.

ZeeDub

"Could you point them out to us, please? "

ill only point out this..... i dont give a flying fucc about you, or anyone elses opinion in this place..... my respect is held elsewhere, because people i associate myself with dont make random assumptions, and flap their lips continuously... and all this? because they respect me, and know that if they choose to lose that respect, i will ask them to refrain from being in my presence... and if they choose to disrespect that wish...... they also know im going to take offense to it with a passion.... and thats when it would get ugly...... im no bully, and i dont look for fights, i hate them... but fact is, people respect me because i treat them with respect.... and even in here, i wasnt the one running around the posts looking for something to try and pawn off my knowledge on... that was all you bob... i made one post about something and you decided to be a dick-head about it and make a stink.... was it any of your business? it was about me racing a 5.0... and all the little scavengers came in and decided to talk trash about how a mildly modded LT1 couldnt beat a mildly modded 5.0 stang.... what a bunch of hypocrite losers... im sorry to say, but 60% of you goons are flaming queers.... and i will ONLY ask advice when i need it... if you choose to answer? ok... fine... if not? i could give a damn... you all may know how to work on these cars more than i do, but your internet personalities are 100% dog sh*t...... bunch of keyboard badasses... and i dont dig the type of person that will only call u up, or write you an email talkin sh*t.... shows no moral character... which is something i have lots of..........