LS1's trapping 99-102 is kind of low. Most LS1's I see at a 600' elevated track and 80-90ish degree weather trap 101-106 depending on year and transmission. I have not personally seen a LS1 trap less then 101 myself.

As far as that 2002 A4 only being able to cut a 13.9 @ 102 it seems a tad high but not too far off. What was the track elevation? what was the temperature and humidaty? His car is a tad on the slow side but was there a reason for it or does he just have a factory turd?

We can all say we saw a LT1 stock run a 13.7 and we can all say we saw a stock LS1 run 14.1. We also can all say we saw a stock LT1 run 14.5 and a we can all say we saw a stock LS1 run 12.9. But the bottom line is an extreme one way or the other is not the normal. Normal stock LT1's run 14.1 or so while Normal stock LS1's run 13.6 or so in decent weather at a somewhat reasonably elevated track.

 

Track here is 1300' and it was real cold the night he ran the 13.9 @ 102 (I ran a new best of 111.5 mph that night)...so it was a good night. Like I said, it's not just his car..I've probably seen 25-30 LS1 cars running almost identical numbers.

Did you car run the times in your sig with the cat-back and lid? If so, your car is a factory turd as well. I never claimed all LS1s trap 101-102...but a lot of them do. My original comment was to Antz who claims a intake/full exhaust LT1 can't walk a stock LS1. I walked many LS1s when my car was trapping 104. It happens...and it looks like Hawk's car should trap 105-107 given his 1/8 mph. Not all LS1s trap 108 off the show room floor...just as not all stock LT1s trapped 103, like some have claimed.

 

I think the difference here may be track elevation. Not sure how much of a difference 1300 vs 600 should make on traps and et's but I know it does play a factor.

No my time in the sig was when I had just the bullet muffler so no turd here and I didn't even have ls6 intake. Now the muffler probably shaved a whopping .1 from my ET so I should have been a 13.6 stock which is average for 3.23 auto at Rt 66 so I am not fast or slow. Just average.

I'm dying to run the car in cooler air with my bolt-ons and a maybe Nitto's. But since I live in Chicagoland and the track near my house closed back in early September I have a wee bit of a wait ahead of me still

My point was simply that what you see ls1's run is different from what I see them run. And we both see times and traps that make the unlucky Denver F-body owners drool. It's all subjective to the elements. I just didn't want any visitors to this site to walk away thinking that LS1's are 99 MPH traps and 14 second cars when we all know that isn't always or even close to usually the case.

 

I never said they are usually 14 second cars. Read my posts again. All I said was I see them trap 99-102 all day long out here. I also see some trap 108 with just a lid/catback. I was never arguing that LS1 cars are slow...only that a bolt-on LT1 can run right with/pull a stock LS1. Anyone w/a clue knows that already..but antz, as always, has his head in his lower most orifice.

Darren - your car (or any other LS1 car trapping 103) would get pulled by a LT1 that is trapping 84 in the 1/8...that's all I'm saying.

 

But my car would pull each and every similairly modded, geared and trans LT1 that I lined up with minus human and mechanical error of course. And that is all that I am saying.

 

That was never in question..was it? That's what you're saying now, because you took offense to my comment. You made a blanket statement, I did not.
I knew it would turn into this...so I'm ducking out of this 'debate.'

 

Of course I took offense to that comment. Duh. Was it ever in question that a LT1 that semi heavily outmods a LS1 should pull on it? Not by me it wasn't.

But my original unblanketed point was that it's not the norm everywhere for LS1's to trap 99-102. Many places see them 101-106. That was my original point.

 

Come on guys...we get what you are saying, I promise

 

I was merely using your car as an example, because it is a pretty average - strong running LS1. I know my point wasn't being questioned by you, and I shouldn't have quoted your post and used your car as an example. My apologies.

 

I never said anything that was not real.. I just said what happened at 90 we took off and I passed him and let off 130 plus hell I dont remember... Then everybody goes bsbsbs why because in the past i have raced a vette con that was stock and I had a couple of boltons I dont remember, got him till about 90 and he passed me, and everybody just gets on my case.Like all you race is ls1s and you never post kills on lt1s I said there is no lt1s around here in dallas, mostly ls1 ls6zo6s, Hey I have lost ls1 before heads and cam spray... hell I lost to my freinds gt mustang with nos and all boltons, So whats not realistic about that... maybe the driver did not know how to drive but that night I felt good.... For example a guy pulls up to you in a lets say a 355 Ferrari or something similar, you have an ls1 with all bolt ons say your making 355 at wheels Ok a 95 355 has 375 horses 0-60 4.7 sec now thats a 95 model you nail you get him out the hole and leave him now stock those do 12.8 13.0 flat and they weigh 2800 pounds now realisticly he has the faster car but you know how to drive better I didnt say my car is faster than a zo6 I have never ran one at a stop... just like he said maybe he dint know how to drive, there is a maybe in there and racing to 130 yea I think the guy knew what he was doing to race that high up... yea z06 top out at 178 what do t/a s top out 160 165 we are not racing top end so thats is realistic....Point im trying to make is that yes the 410s woke my car up good and he has 3.73s and im making more power than him, so dont you think That he said he pulled 4 cars on him, thats with 373s now I have 410s shouldnt I pull to my power band quicker, right and I say I had 2 or 3 car lengths on him he was on my *** but I let of at 130 140 my freind has 410s in his camaro and a supercharger he toped out 125 130.... I am just saying that that night I got him dont worry I dont hate those ls6s its just everybody brags around here and degrade lt1/lt4s thats all im saying... oh his camaro is a a4

 

It's cool. I by no means think my car is the fastest thing out there. I have seen soo many modded LT1's that would hand me my a$$ it's not even funny. If I insulted you in any way then I apologise. I was only trying to offer some variables for why LS1's or any car for that matter might trap or ET lower then it's true potential.

 

Now that makes perfect sense Zues. I totally believe you could have pulled on a Z06 if the guy didn't downshift or missed a shift. So Grats on your kill bro. You beat the driver not the car but you still got the thrill of seeing a Z06 in your taillights.

Peace

 

hey bro were is the engine shot

 

so, you are admitting when you beat a car on the highway that on average traps 10-15mph higher AND has a higher top speed, that you beat the driver, not the car? a simple yes or no will do.

 

Im going to race my freinds zo6 soon at the gym we will see I will post you videos....Just like he said maybe....