lighting vs lt-1
Re: lighting vs lt-1
Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
Man..the **** is deep in here...catching faster vehicles in 5th now are we?
Re: lighting vs lt-1
5th gear in an f-bod unless it is a really bad car is not the best performing gear.
I mean...WTF do I know...I only own the vehicles in question and they are both pretty good running.
I mean...WTF do I know...I only own the vehicles in question and they are both pretty good running.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
I think you are correct only to a certain degree. The lightning will beat the LT1 in the 1/4 mile, but if they go past that the LT1 will start to pull.
I don't see how it couldn't air friction exceeds ground friction at about 40MPH and the lightning has the aerodynamics of a brick wall. I imagine it has a fairly weak top end in comparison to the f-body.
Just a guess anyways, since they are both rated at about the same speeds. Low 14s high 13s, and one has better aerodynamics. It seems logical.
- Z28WannaB
I don't see how it couldn't air friction exceeds ground friction at about 40MPH and the lightning has the aerodynamics of a brick wall. I imagine it has a fairly weak top end in comparison to the f-body.
Just a guess anyways, since they are both rated at about the same speeds. Low 14s high 13s, and one has better aerodynamics. It seems logical.
- Z28WannaB
Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
A stock any year LT1 vs a stock 2001-2002 Lightning, given equal drivers, the LT1 will get spanked. Same car vs. a stock 2003-2004 Lightning, closer, but only because Ford changed the load rating so the 03-04 L's sit way to high in the back.
THIS is assuming that the LT1 is in great running order. Your talking about cars with mileage(some alot) on them vs. brand new vehicles with nothing wrong.
THIS is assuming that the LT1 is in great running order. Your talking about cars with mileage(some alot) on them vs. brand new vehicles with nothing wrong.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
You don't know what your talking about whatsoever.
I might remotely even see your point if the truck was my fastest vehicle ever and I just thought it was the king ****...but it is not even close...again, what is your point?
Real surprising how a question is asked about LT1's vs a Lightning and an LS1 guy come on board has to talk about how fast they are.
Your buddies car weighs 3480 with him in it...wow, your cool...so I guess that must make his 5th gear like really strong? But it does'nt, so what were you saying again. Your bud's car would have his hands full trying to deal with my tow truck...
I might remotely even see your point if the truck was my fastest vehicle ever and I just thought it was the king ****...but it is not even close...again, what is your point?
Real surprising how a question is asked about LT1's vs a Lightning and an LS1 guy come on board has to talk about how fast they are.
Your buddies car weighs 3480 with him in it...wow, your cool...so I guess that must make his 5th gear like really strong? But it does'nt, so what were you saying again. Your bud's car would have his hands full trying to deal with my tow truck...
Re: lighting vs lt-1
Z28wannaB...
Actually, my Lightning when it was basically stock(CAI) pulled a faster 1/8 MPH and pulled more MPH in the 2nd 1/8 than my Z28, which was a good running Z28 when stock(14.08@99.16). My Lightning gained 21.75 mph(4.503 mph per sec avg).
Even now, my Lightning gets a slower than normal 1/8 speed, I get 83-84 MPH in the 1/8, but almost 108 MPH in the 1/4.
It is no top end monster, but it holds it own easily.
Actually, my Lightning when it was basically stock(CAI) pulled a faster 1/8 MPH and pulled more MPH in the 2nd 1/8 than my Z28, which was a good running Z28 when stock(14.08@99.16). My Lightning gained 21.75 mph(4.503 mph per sec avg).
Even now, my Lightning gets a slower than normal 1/8 speed, I get 83-84 MPH in the 1/8, but almost 108 MPH in the 1/4.
It is no top end monster, but it holds it own easily.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
You don't know what your talking about whatsoever.
I might remotely even see your point if the truck was my fastest vehicle ever and I just thought it was the king ****...but it is not even close...again, what is your point?
Real surprising how a question is asked about LT1's vs a Lightning and an LS1 guy come on board has to talk about how fast they are.
Your buddies car weighs 3480 with him in it...wow, your cool...so I guess that must make his 5th gear like really strong? But it does'nt, so what were you saying again. Your bud's car would have his hands full trying to deal with my tow truck...
I might remotely even see your point if the truck was my fastest vehicle ever and I just thought it was the king ****...but it is not even close...again, what is your point?
Real surprising how a question is asked about LT1's vs a Lightning and an LS1 guy come on board has to talk about how fast they are.
Your buddies car weighs 3480 with him in it...wow, your cool...so I guess that must make his 5th gear like really strong? But it does'nt, so what were you saying again. Your bud's car would have his hands full trying to deal with my tow truck...
2. These are all our local members so Im not some guy in an ls1 just droping my 2 cents dumbass
3. Yes I am cool

That is all . . . goodbye
Re: lighting vs lt-1
No, your not.
I own an LT1 and a Lightning...I know what I am talking about.
I race LT1's, LS1's, Mustangs, Imports...only been beat once on the highway by a bud here that goes by Grease. I don't talk about race weight like that alone will enable a spanking.
I own an LT1 and a Lightning...I know what I am talking about.
I race LT1's, LS1's, Mustangs, Imports...only been beat once on the highway by a bud here that goes by Grease. I don't talk about race weight like that alone will enable a spanking.
Last edited by CANTONRACER; Jul 27, 2004 at 01:32 PM.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
Well i don't think a stock LT1 can beat a lightning.
I myself have raced one and it was a pretty good race and all the mods i had are the ones in my sig. The lightning was stock down to the paper filter.
From a stop it was pretty much a drivers race till you get to top end and then the lightning will start pulling which was around 90-100.
Me Vs Lightning
So if your car is stock i would be worried. If it had headers and some bolt-ons then i really wouldnt worry about it.
I myself have raced one and it was a pretty good race and all the mods i had are the ones in my sig. The lightning was stock down to the paper filter.
From a stop it was pretty much a drivers race till you get to top end and then the lightning will start pulling which was around 90-100.
Me Vs Lightning
So if your car is stock i would be worried. If it had headers and some bolt-ons then i really wouldnt worry about it.
Last edited by 97BBlackZ; Jul 27, 2004 at 01:17 PM.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
who cares anyways? Fords are crap. It still takes a power adder for ford to put down some serious numbers. When a stock 2004 Stang GT can keep up with a stock 94 LT1 I might give them some respect. Until then to me a Cobra is nothing but a GT with a blower and a Lightnning is nothing but an F150 with a blower. YOu can add the same **** to a LT1 and only then would I think it's apples to apples and then the LT1 will spank Ford. Even if the lightning is half a sec faster, it don't mean much since they have 115hp more than a 94 Lt1 and only then can they barely be faster.
I think its pretty embarrising that a LS1 like Twitches and another Convertible LS1 that we know about on this side of the board can hang with an 04 cobra when the LS1's have nothing but a cam and other bolt ons.
If you want to compare apples to apples here's an idea. The camaro and Transam are both GM's secondary pony car (or was) so lets leave them out. Even before the Camaro and Transam left, the Vette was Gm's number one muscle. Throw that up against a Cobra (Ford's number one pony) or the Lightning ,the GT350 or whatever it is called isn't mass produced enough to count. The vette, ALL NA will spank anything in Ford's stable which all have to be Supercharged to be effective.
Until then IMHO the blue Oval is nothing but a circle around the problem.
I think its pretty embarrising that a LS1 like Twitches and another Convertible LS1 that we know about on this side of the board can hang with an 04 cobra when the LS1's have nothing but a cam and other bolt ons.
If you want to compare apples to apples here's an idea. The camaro and Transam are both GM's secondary pony car (or was) so lets leave them out. Even before the Camaro and Transam left, the Vette was Gm's number one muscle. Throw that up against a Cobra (Ford's number one pony) or the Lightning ,the GT350 or whatever it is called isn't mass produced enough to count. The vette, ALL NA will spank anything in Ford's stable which all have to be Supercharged to be effective.
Until then IMHO the blue Oval is nothing but a circle around the problem.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
I guess that 5000lbs of truck means nothing either...and a Cobra is not even in the same league as a plain GT...32 valves, DOHC....
Also, my truck never made 380 hp stock, it made 361@ the wheels, which works out to be around 450 hp stock.
Do you know anything about Fords?
Also, my truck never made 380 hp stock, it made 361@ the wheels, which works out to be around 450 hp stock.
Do you know anything about Fords?
Re: lighting vs lt-1
Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
I guess that 5000lbs of truck means nothing either...and a Cobra is not even in the same league as a plain GT...32 valves, DOHC....
Also, my truck never made 380 hp stock, it made 361@ the wheels, which works out to be around 450 hp stock.
Do you know anything about Fords?
Also, my truck never made 380 hp stock, it made 361@ the wheels, which works out to be around 450 hp stock.
Do you know anything about Fords?
As for whether I know anything about Fords? I know enough about them that I know I would never buy one.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
Originally Posted by SBainsTA
As for whether I know anything about Fords? I know enough about them that I know I would never buy one.
I pulled the times with a 2000 L (20hp less that 01-04) that is stock down to the paper filter. THOSE TIMES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I thought I read in a post that car and driver could only get 13.8 out of the SRT 10. Sweet ain't it 
I love em both (Fbods and Lightning) but my Formula has found a nice home under a car cover.
Re: lighting vs lt-1
I am not your normal chevy guy...for one, I have a part time job at my local dyno shop doing guess what...I tune Fords, a lot of them.
I know the pro's and con's of each...I also know the power each are putting down stock, a few mods, and all out.
But heh, each there own.
I know the pro's and con's of each...I also know the power each are putting down stock, a few mods, and all out.
But heh, each there own.


