Whatever you end up doing, I would run it by a mechanic 1st- just to be on the safe side. You don't want to waste money or hurt your ride. Val

 

Val,

Thanks for the advice but I would never let a mechanic touch my car!

I have been building supercharged cars for ten years and used to run a little nitrous. I am putting a car together that is totally budget oriented, kinda got a few points to prove of how it can be done cheap yet go fast.

Thanks Again,
Jeff

 

The average "mechanic" isn't going to have the slightest idea of what kind of tubing it takes to handle a liquid that can put the system under 1,800psi of pressure. I'd listen carefully to people who have experience with the systems, and can demonstrate that experience by backing up their recommendations with facts, as has been done in several posts above.

The NOS NOSzle system use a 1/8" flex tubing they variously describe as "poly" in one place and "nylon high pressure" in another. The shop that did my nitrous setup is using the NOSzle setup on their 7-second Pro5.0 car. They were very skeptical when they saw the flex tubing, but decided to give it a try. Two years later, they are still using it. It would be interesting to get some more specific tech info about these products.

 

Jeff I sent you a pm. I do not recommending a poly line or plastic line for you install. these line are not a good idea. The heat in an engine compartment is will past 150-200 degrees. (depending on where you live). I have tested several companies lines trying to come up with an easy to install line that lives under real world conditions. Aslo the nos brand using a funnel jet is an extremely bad idea. See it is nothing more than a compression fitting. So the crimping or holding of this style hose will change the I.D. of the plastic line. Changing the size will greatly effect how your kit will work. Also the I.D. of those hose is no were near large enough for a sinle nozzle.
The high the temp the lower the pressure has to be before blowing out of the compression, or just popping the line in the middle. Nylon is probably the better out all that I have found, and does hold for the short term, long term its a joke.
This is why I had to go with a insulated line that has a burst pressure of 27,000 psi. Complete insulated and cover with a black vinyl. Complete with compression fittings, that you could tighten until the the fitting break and the I.D. Of the hose remains the same.

Now I still do not recommend this hose on a single nozzle, you need to go with a steel braided -3 line.
Hope this helps let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

Ricky

 

Thanks Ricky,
It nice to have someone as knowlegdeable as yourself come on the boards and give quality product knowledge.Keep up the good work.
Dave

 

maybe its just a few of us but i dont trust plastic (ne type of plastic) for something that is that pressurized i was skeptical when i got my first NOS kit with the plastic purge lines so i spent a couple bucks got sum brake line and went to work with my flaring tool (IMO opinion plastic looks cheap also tubing that looks like it was prof done just looks sharper also IMO)


Now HARRIS if u really think plastic is the way to go then u will have to post sum pics and numbers(especially cuz we really havent heard from you and dont know u from tim buc 2) I speak for myself and if ne1 wants 2 chime in when u have a supporting vendor like DAVE himself who is ALWAYS helping us out with various tips and tricks and advice we are a little bit more apt to trust dave's word

This is NOT to be meant to dog u harris but u must understand on this forum to state something and not get BS called upon u have to back ur statements up with sufficent evidence
The reason we have to do this is to be honest with u we have people on here that just like to talk out of their A*S(now under no circumstances am i saying this about u)

But on the other hand now that u have tried to say that ur smarter than dave on this subject be prepared to have alot of peple try to prove ur wrong
so all u can do is back it with sufficent evidence

also i suspect we will see u in here more often giving people advice like dave does,and we wont just see u trying to sell people stuff

Everybody be courteus and be professional
Also srry bout hijacking ur thread

Also injuneer i c u agree on the poly line im not trying to call BS on u either especially seens how u have helped me out with various items

 

Also IMO i think braided line just looks better andit just gives the aggresive look i would espect plastic line under a wanna be Fast + Furious car

 

That’s an opinion and you’re entitled to it…some would disagree and like the look of "plastic" for its OE appearance. You do realize that the braided stainless steel line is a member of the "plastics" family, don’t you? Are you saying that you don’t trust that even? Granted burst pressures, working pressures, and insulation/thermal qualities are significantly increased due to the additional braided material, however inner core is still PTFE. You’d be surprised at the extent of material strength comprised in the "plastic" family. The original poster asked for a specific line for a specific reason. Is there better options out there? Of coarse, we were mearly fullfilling the posters request; if there exists such an item.


No need for pictures, just head out to your garage or wherever you stored your Nylon line from NOS and look at it to get an idea. Currently we use a Nylon-12 Semi-rigid line in various diameters. Our couplinks are compression fittings with a stainless steal insert. The insert is similar in principle to those used for the PTFE braided JIC/AN crimp on fittings…to prevent "cave-in" or wall distortion of the line at the fitting. We are in the process of updating and revamping the website (adding products, customer cars, and shop vehicles) so be on the lookout for pictures soon. We are also working with multiple flouroplastics, braided and un-braided with various braid materials, and various couplink devices which will also be updated on the website when testing is finalized. Please feel free to take tech advice from whomever you choose in the future.

No "dog" taken. We are a paying vendor and have posted in quite a few threads offering our tech advice, and that’s all it is…ADVICE. Doesn’t mean you have to take it, its up to the individual in the thread to decide what he/she would like to do. Vendors have an extra responsibility to provide technical support that represents truth and safety. Have I breeched this? No. I was raised to share with others that of which I have worked so hard to obtain. Which is why I extend my experiences with the CZ28 community. Is it partially sales driven, of coarse. I know you don’t speak for the whole CZ28.com community, however if my technical knowledge is not wanted, I will stop offering my advice and continue to make sales.

We have tried to say that we’re smarter than Dave?? Where? If recalled correctly he accused us of having a lack of technical based knowledge. What person wouldn't respond to that?? Now if you assume that having a high school diploma and multiple college degrees as being smart, well then sure. If you assume that having "real-world"/school of hard knocks as being smart, well then all I can do is offer my 20+ years of racing and product usage as experience. Neither of us are smarter than the other…we just have differing opinions on some things. HSW has a policy of avoiding online pissing matches with other vendors or act like used car salesmen, however when a product or service I offer is offended (as it was) I will defend it.

If you check other sites we offer advice to those interested in products that we don’t even sell. We’ve been a paying sponsor on this site since January and if someone asks about a certain product that we happen to sell, well then guess what, I’m gonna say that "hey we offer such & such". Again, what PAYING vendor wouldn’t like to see a return on their investment? We have only been on this site a few months and a lot of individuals don’t quite know what we all offer, so again why wouldn’t we post that we offer it?

Everyone has been courteous and professional until your post.

This was just the icing on the cake…Not only do you basically accuse me of having poor business practices, but now you insult fellow CZ28.com members for having an opinion?? Come on, this whole post is just ridiculous!

Nick

 

first of all i was courteous in my reply

second DONT u ever put words in my mouth (i never accused u having bad business practices

third i did not insult injuneer especially seens how i think he is one of the smartest members on this board

so before u get ur panties in a wad read my reply and dont ever put words in my mouth

as i said this wasnt supposed to start an argument but ur the one making it a big deal by putting words in my mouth

 

Mike:

I'm going to be very blunt with you.... your post came across as very offensive. (The ebonics effects make it appear very immature.) As I read it, I was very close to simply deleting it, and asking you to stop the flaming. If you disagree with someone, follow your own advice - offer facts to counter... don't throw out a bunch of BS.

I'm the last one to play favorites where Vendors are involved (I just got my *** reamed by another paying advertiser because I politely asked him to knock off the pissing contest he was having with a few members).

My own experience with "plastic" tubing for nitrous is very limited, but I did take to time to check out an installation on a very fast Pro5.0 Mustang campaigned by one of the top dry nitrous shops on the east coast, and they were using the nylon lines that came with the NOS NOSzle system. I specifically asked them about their experience with the lines, and they were totally satisfied with them.

I'm going to ask everybody to stick to the facts and stop the accusations. Threads like this don't help anyone.

TIA for everyone's full cooperation.

Fred

 

This post defintly went the wrong way.
I was not saying that Nylon/Poly lines will not work completely.
I was simply saying they were not a good choice for a SINGLE NOZZLE SYSTEM.We have done tons of custom directports with NXs style Line.The workfine for that.A single nozzle system is a whole different ball game.

Matt and Nick.
I have said in several of my post this is not ment to have any disrespect.You are the one that took a nice post and started calling it scare tactics.Thats made me mad.I should not have said anything about you not have the knowledge to back it.I should have kept that to myself.Im sorry.

Dave

 

I got SS braided line from a local shop. It was actually some brake lines I do believe.


Thanks for all those that took the time to help.
Owens

 

Dave, I agree with you 100% and I've stated it in other threads. We have no problems with you, your shop or your suppliers. Let's just leave it as we think a little differently on certain items...which to be honest is a very good thing especially for the end user. Apology accepted Dave, and I would like to personally extend my apologies to you as well.

Harris Speed Works

 

At the very least, a person should NEVER choose a product based on how inexpensive it is when it comes to safety of the individual or the car. Sometimes cheaper costs more in the long run. Especially if the induvidual ends up in the hospital or the car ends up in flames because someone chose a "cheaper" way to go. I'm surprised this was never brought up by the Nitrous vendors.

 

Actually this is something we preach all the time.Unfortintly it gets old sometimes.Thats how some of these companys that say there stuff is just as good but cheaper stay in buisness.Some people just do not want to here the truth.They want whats cheap and if a salesman tells them its just as good but cheaper thats all they need to hear.

This is not directed towards the line post.Just answering this remark.
Dave