I'm looking to put together a motor and I want to pay particular attention to the following areas:

1) Blueprinting the bottom end, including line boring, hot honing with deck plates, zero-decking, chamfering/crossdrilling the crank and balancing the whole mass as close as possible.

2) Cylinder pressures, relating to static and dynamic compression ratios and forced induction.

3) Head flow, especially maximum flow in the .050-.500 lift range, velocity and exhaust flow as a percentage of intake flow.

4) Camshaft timing, particularly with regard to ramp speed, overlap and LSA.

So, is there a shop in the NY/NJ area that has the kind of high end knowledge I'm looking for, or do I need to do some travelling?

 

Probably best to ask in the regional forums...

-Alex

 

This would be better posted in a regional forum as stated. You should get more help there, so ill move it to North Eastern.
Thanks.

 

Actually, I posted it where I did intentionally.

Could you please move it back?

 

I know they're out on the West Coast, but......

http://www.race-prep.com

This shop is like a dream come true for those looking for some serious power.

 

Hey i know a guy named Bret Bauer that is great at building LS1's and has alot of high end knowledge. I'll actually be doing some work with him in the spring on my engine, hes a good guy. his e-mail address is bretbauer@hotmail.com his shop is in Elmira, NY called Bauer Raceing Engines. Hope this helps,
-Paul

 

My buddies dad builds motors, he's out here in Suffolk County on Long Island. He does the actual building in his garage but has a reputable machine shop that he always uses. He knows his stuff too, he's been building cars all his life and has 3-5 accounts with fire departments where he builds the motors for their drill team trucks which are 700-800 hp big blocks. I'm not sure if this is too far away for you but if you're interested I could get you his # and put you in contact with him.

 

Second Street Speed
109 S. Second St.
Perkasie, PA 18944
215-257-3724

Builders of the world's quickest LT1.......... and several other 9-second 4th Gens.

 

I was also going to mention Second Street Speed. There is also a place in Northern NJ called East Coast Supercharging.... Ive heard they are pretty good with forced induction motors. I know they have and are involved with building some serious HP monsters.

BTW, no, I will not move this back. I assume you posted this in Advanced Tech since Ken moved it here... the question has nothing to do with "Advanced Tech". If you have a more specific question and not "where is a good shop?"... I would rephrase it and repost in AT.

 

It sounds like you are looking for a shop that can do a "turn key" buildup for you. If that's the case, be prepared to spend a good chunk of change!

My friend Bob Kennedy does these kinds of buildups here in Buffalo. You can see his website at www.kennedysdynotune.com. The work is excellent, but it is not cheap! He has a number of customers from the NY metro/NJ area.

Bret Bauer posts here a lot and seems very knowledgable and approachable. His shop is in Elmira. I don't know if he does whole projects or "just" works on motors.

My current shortblock was built by Proformance in Rochester. They do excellent work at a relatively moderate price, but do motors only. You will need to do the R+R yourself, or have someone do it locally.

NuTek is in northeastern Ohio. They have a good reputation for quality work at a fair price. Jason Short has worked there and could tell you more. AFAIK they don't do whole cars, just engines, but they may be into doing "projects" as well.

Good luck.

Rich Krause

 

RS -
Turn-key in the sense that I want a completed motor as opposed to just individual parts, yes.

Turn-key in the sense that I just want to drop off money and pick up a motor, with no conversation in between? No.

I want to be inimately involved with the whole process, especially in terms of decisions regarding cam and heads.

It's just that once I have had all the machine work done to my specs, what am I REALLY going to save by assembling it myself. A couple of hundred dollars? For what? So that if something breaks a question might arise regarding my assembly?

No, my personal belief is that the best thing to do is work closely with the shop or tech so that you get what you want, but let them put it together.

Thanks for the link though. I'll check it out.

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Project -
I'm not going to make an issue of it but my question had plenty to do with advanced tech, which is why I posted it there in the first place.

If people don't understand the things I talked about in my post, then how would they be in a position to know whether or not a shop they are recommending understands them?

Now that East Coast Supercharging sound interesting...
Anyone have any contact info on them?

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Injun -
World's quickest LT1, eh? Sounds interesting.

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Thank you to the others who responded.

 

Point taken. I understand you have some technical questions but you didnot ask them. The question you asked was still "where?" and had nothing to do with AT. That is why it was moved here, and that is why I did not move it back. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions regaurding this.


As for East Coast Supercharging I mentiond them because you hinted to forced induction in the original post. They may be worth looking into. I have no personal experience with them, but I know a few people who have. I will contact them and see if I can get you atleast a phone number. The guys I know have been very pleased with their work...

Brian

 

Hey Eric: what I meant was, are you planning on dropping your car off and picking up a completed project vs. doing at least the motor R+R yourself. Of course, with custom work like this you would want to be involved in the decision making.

As far as assembling the motor yourself, I advise against it unless you already are experienced. A high performance motor is not where you want to start. It is a surprisingly subtle process with lots of pitfalls. In addition, there a number of specialized, expensive tools needed to do the job right. And what's more, engine assembly is not very expensive. The cost is primarily the machine shop work and most of all, the parts. Also, a shop can get the parts cheaper than you can. As a whole project, you will end up paying less. They aren't going to buy the parts, fit them, and then sell them to you at cost for final assembly! Even the "small" parts can add up pretty fast

Good luck, I hope my posts are helpful.

Rich Krause

 

Project -

Yeah, if you can get me a phone number for East Coast Supercharging, sure.

I'm looking to do forced induction and while I'm leaning toward Supercharging I haven't ruled out Turbocharging either. I'm even considering doing a Roots type blower. What's nice about them is when you use a high volume blower you end up with less heat at a given pressure.

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RK -
Planning on dropping it off?
Well, yes and no. I use different shops for different things because nobody knows how to do everything.
Probably I would just bring and pick up an engine.

I would want to take advantage of the downtime and empty engine compartment to do some good cleanup work.

The parts combo is going to be complex though.
I'm planning to go to Ultradyne for a cam and I have a channel where I can speak directly to Harold.

The pistons and rods will come from different places and the crank as well.

I have a lot of machine work to do there.

I want to zero deck it, hot hone it with deck plates and line bore it. I want the crank chamfered, cross drilled, knife edged and balanced so well a baby could spin it.

Don't even get me STARTED on the heads.

Anyway, I agree that you should always buy parts through the shop.

I just want to make sure that I'm the one making the decisions.

 

973-744-7500

Aparently they just recently moved to a new improved shop. They are in Central Jersey near Six Flags now. That is their old phone number but it should forward to their new one. Thats what I am told anyhow. Good luck, keep us posted with your project