All of you guys need to cool it and quit giving this guy a hard time...you idiots go out of your way to call this guy out for what reason? If you see a thread that you deem as being redundant, then IGNORE it! Goes back to "if you have nothing nice to say..."

 

this answer sounds like a smart *** remark too. Gentleman you need to control your killing instincts...


Yes I am a comedian and Mentally disturbed too. No I dont think the HP gains are due to a bigger MAF if the stocker flows more than the Throttle Body.

Marvin

 

last time i checked, whenever you had a large group of car guys hanging out together talking about cars, sooner or later they end up joking around and busting on each other and what not in a friendly manner..........the smartass remarks are going to be there in any large group of males, and for the most part theyre just for comedic value and no one should take it personally..........if you are that overly sensitive, maybe you should consider staying inside the rest of your life and not socialize with others.
you guys are just becoming waaaaaaaay too touchy and sensitive.

now there is always a line to be crossed, but its usually pretty easy to tell when something goes from joking around to malicious attack.

 

9,10,11 second Turbo Buick cars use the LT1 MAF, its gotta flow enuf air if those guys use it, turbo forcing ALOT of air thru it more then a bolton (not blower) or stock LT1 would ever need or use
try www.billygrahamscamaro.com and see if they have any used MAF's

 

So bottom line, it's ok to descreen it, but not port the MAF ends...correct?

 

i polished my ends and descreened it, its been like that for 2 yrs now with no troubles, imo opinion if you dont hit the wires you should be ok

 

OK, now I realize without having to think very hard that it's not an HP mod but what about this.

The Z06 MAF is just another data sensor right? In that regard how is it different then say the MAF we have in our cars? Does it produce more reliable results, or more accurate, more precision or is it just the exact same thing in a different housing?

There must be some reason why they use it for the Z06 and not the same old MAF they have used in the past.

Which also gets me to thinking, even if it is more precise when someone puts it into our cars won't the computer already be setup for the old MAF's level of precision and data.

Really why would you even bother to put in a Z06 MAF into our vehicles?

Just a few thoughts maybe someone has answers too.

 

The ZO6 Maf will flow more air, but the engine will only take in the air it needs, until it becomes a restriction, as said earlier, the stock maf will suffice. On my stock T/A the maf mods really didnt seem to increase my times, but now that I'M stroked I did notice a slight improvement with a ported maf and tuned program for it. (about a tenth).
I have no Dynop #s to verify this so its kinda like the one reply of , its in the range of variance. But 18 HP I kinda disbeleive.

 

Yes, the MAF is just a Data Sensor

It is a larger unit, it flows more air, it is no more accurate, reliable, or anything else.

There is some MAJOR CONFUSTION about this though; primiarily because there is the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 MAF, and the LS1 Speed "Z06" MAF. This is where the cars computer comes into play. The LS1 Speed version is HACKED to supossedly be able to use the cars stock programming with the different MAF. The Chevrolet Corvette unit has different output, and your cars computer muct be re-programmed to account for the different output.

Reasoning why to put one is, it's cheaper than a stock replacement. A stocker LT1 MAF runs about $300, an Chevrolet Corvette Z06 MAF costs about $100, and the LS1 Speed "Z06" MAF costs $150. It is NOT a HP Mod, and I don't suggest it as one, I only suggest it for a REPLACEMENT if your stocker fails.

 

It would be a good replacement and would "grow" with your car as u mod it. Ignore all the smartass comments as they are from guys who were chased off the import boards for the same crap. Seems like it's always the same guys too.

Joe

 

Ok this is getting a little more interesting than the original topic.

That was an answer I was looking for. I couldn't figure out why you would even want to bother.. but that's a pretty good reason.

The output is different but in what way? Is it simply a different voltage due to the larger size. Or did the electronics change at all?

I just can't understand why they would make an entirely new MAF if it wasn't better electronically in regards to accuracy or reliability or some standard other than bigger.

But a switch to Z06 MAF requires changing the table but what else.. someone mentioned an adapter? Where would someone get one of those?

I'm just curious about all this because I know I have tuning software and I have an old MAF that could quit any day so one day I may need to save the $200 it costs between the two.

 

*cough* BITE MY @SS! *cough*



I guess I'm just not down with the pointless flaming, or as you'd put it, the whole 'comedy act' on cz28.com...

 

I'm not sure why you keep referring to it as the LS1 Speed Z06 MAF, as to my knowledge it's made by Granatelli.

Joe

 

Hmmm I have never owned an import and I dont even know any Import boards. so where did you get this from? Einstein!!


Just kidding (see I was just joking). I think Joking is a much safer way to releasing some steam than to blowing your top. At least for me that is (blowing your top! get it? ).


Anyway I am with the guys who said that the Larger MAF has more Air Flow Potential but you will only see more HP if your engine is capable of injesting more air and fuel than you already have. Kinda like giving a 4 banger a Holly "dominator carburator" air capability. there's only so much air that will flow through the Throttle Body, Valves, exhaust and muffler. Get my point?


Marvin

 

The MAF sensor outputs a variable frequency per how much airflow is passing by the heated wires that are inside it. That frequency Vs Flow table is what is different between the MAF's outputs.

As long as you have the correct Freq Vs Flow table, and the MAF's are of the same type (These are all a Heated-wire type), theoretically you could run ANY MAF on your car. (Although I Don't suggest this!)

There is an adapter cable required because the LT1 MAF is a 3-wire hookup, whereas the Z06 MAF is a 5-wire hookup (3 wires for the MAF, and 2 wires for the integrated IAT, which no one uses AFAIK. It's something I've been meaning to look into, but never gotten to it) I got my adapter cable from Ramchargers for ~$22.

If you need the Freq Vs Flow chart that you'll need to run to Stock GM Z06 MAF just let me know, I have it in Excel format.