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Is it worth converting to a 6 speed from an auto ?

Old Dec 24, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by WhoBetter?
You think you're going to be able to lift and balence a 350# trans onto a car jack and jack it into place and then bolt it up?
Don't you have any common sense? [/B]
Yeah... thats exactly how i did it, do even know what you are talking about? Anybody that knows how to use a wrench would probably be able to do this swap.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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I have used two floor jacks, and nothing other than a set of metric wrenches. Oh, the one special tool I used is a 3 foot long extension. I almost have the new tranny in.

As for cost:

rebuilt tranny 1200
ripper shifter 150
stage 2 clutch 400
clutch hydraulics 200

So far 1950 on major components. Now add in the cost of sales taxes and the cost of various and sundry parts and add a bit more to account for unforseen issues, and 2500 is not hard to reach.

Yes I could have done things cheaper, but I don't want to be under the thing constantly. I don't want stupid stuff breaking or working less than optimally especially when I am at the track a hundred miles form home. I want a rock solid setup that I can drive across the country, or flog on all day at an RR or AX session.

How others chose to spend their money is their business, but I have almost complete confidence in the job I am doing.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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I said it before and will say it again SIX SPEED!
But on the serious side of things you asked for our opinion and everyone chimmed in. I know you will love the 6 speed, but if you have to run up a credit card bill to do it, hold off and don't rush into it. I've seen it time and time again, run out and buy something you want and maybe get a fair deal then next week or month you see a great deal.

I did a similiar swap on the 2nd car I ever owned. Not hard at all and I loved it!
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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when i mentioned $300 for gas... i think i know my budget... thats about 2000miles a month at $1.75 that puts me at about $291 at 12 mpg... whenever i do a little work it'll go up then go back down... but a manual would be more like 15-18... and after a little work would be more like 20-22
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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if you are one who loves the stick then i would say do it. track times will be better with an auto though, (as much as i hate to admit it)
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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I had a 93z that was an auto a while back and now i have the m6 and i have to say i would never go back
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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Most of the guys touting 6 speeds are under 25 years old. Put in a stall, re-program the computer and go with the auto. You'll take them at a stop light every time. I've owned plenty of manual transmissions and loved them, don't get me wrong, but my last three cars I've owned and autocrossed were auto's and I wouldn't go back now.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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i agree that the auto is faster, but i love to drive the manuals. When a driver knows what they are doing, i think the outcome is pretty close
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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Re: Is it worth converting to a 6 speed from an auto ?

Originally posted by jaytone
Is it worth converting to a 6 speed from an auto?
Only if you want to go slower.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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Re: Re: Is it worth converting to a 6 speed from an auto ?

Originally posted by Kain
Only if you want to go slower.
off the line...

but the manual transmission is geared better.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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Didn't seem to hurt his times....
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Is it worth converting to a 6 speed from an auto ?

Originally posted by NewbieWar
off the line...

but the manual transmission is geared better.
NASCAR start =

Not a big concern. When I get done with my combo, I'll probably have 3.27 rear gears, 2.45:1 first gear from a TH400 (I think that's what it is), and a 28" tall tire. Shifting at around 6700, not counting in converter slippage, I'll be able to hit 70 mph in 1st gear. Nice for when I'm hitting a 150 shot from a dead dig, then hit the bigger kit at around 40-45.

Don't forget its more consistant, but with a manual valve body, that goes out the window.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by bruecksteve
Didn't seem to hurt his times....
i dont race to often, and will probably never see the track...
maybe when i dont work 50 hours a week... id like to choose my gear rather then push the pedal just right to make it shift... manual transmission also gives me something to do.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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700R4 with full manual valvebody and high stall!


so much more fun than a 6 speed!
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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Frankly, I feel very uncomfortable with the auto when doing AX or RR, and since that is what I am most intested in doing with my car, I am making the switch.

Yes, autos can work well in these circumstances, but:

I remeber once coming out of the last turn of the autox. I had the gear selector in 1. I was making a right turn out on to the last straight stretch, and needed to make a left turn shortly afterward in order to get into the stop box. On the throttle hard. The car bounced of the rev limiter just as I was going into the left turn, just as I was passing a lamp pole. The a4 said enough! It switched to second at about 5700rpm. I was sideways in a heartbeat, just barely missed the pole, and nearly had a coronary attack. (Heck I'm almost 50 years old.)

Enough with the a4. I will call the gear changes, thank you, and I will feel much more comfortable when I'm pushing my car

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