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Is it worth converting to a 6 speed from an auto ?

Old Dec 22, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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actually off the line the 273's aren't as bad as i assumed they were but you can definatley tell the car needs gears! It doesn't bog though
Old Dec 22, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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if i started to look thro ebay for t56 would i want to take it to the transmission shop for a rebuild first?

and if ebays a bad place to look where else might i try (im a loner with no friends... unless someone in the inland empire would like an A4 cali)
Old Dec 22, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by 95patriotZ
actually off the line the 273's aren't as bad as i assumed they were but you can definatley tell the car needs gears! It doesn't bog though
yea now that i think about it my a4 usually launches w/ 2nd gear with minimal gas and thats a 1.63 gear ratio and the 1rst gear is 2.66 so it should be fine.

but if i did my math right looks like shift points for t56 & 2.73's should be (assuming and aproximating 60" tire circumfrance)

1rs 44mph
2nd 66mph
3rd 91mph
4th 118mph
and faster then i'll ever see

Edit: and looks like at 75mph in 6th ur at 1600 rpms
pretty good gas mileage, i think my ride is running 2500 at 80mph or so

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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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would my local transmission shop be able to get the transmission for me?

or do i need to find someone who wants a switch?

how long does the opperations take?

is the console different? cause i think id have some problems shifting /w my current console.

and whats the average cost?
what should i expect to pay?

and if my math is correct... the top speed of a m6 w/ 2.73 rear gears is 237 mph!? heh thats a hell of a top speed, worth some bragging rights... probably under stock motor would never see that.
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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check ebay and the forsale sectionon this board. I paid 1500 for my kit which came with basically everything needed. I then bought a new clutch and pressure plate. Your local tranny shop may be able to help you also, they may have one there, or maybe know were to gfet one, go check it out. The only thing different on the console is the shifter plate. Just swap that out with an m6 one, or buy a whole new console. You could also check out www.sixonthefloor.com they sell all the parts, but they don't have used trannies (or at least when i checked) so they are a little bit more expensive. If you had all the parts on hand, and a free weekend you could get it done in a couple days. hope that helps
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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I bought my stuff from a variety of sources, and spent extra on those parts that I didn't want to skimp on. Got a rebuilt tranny; a new clutch, pp, and to bearing assy as well as new clutch hydraulics. Got a Ripper shifter too. All told I have about 2600$ into my conversion, but that was my choice. Others have found kits for less.
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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i started looking around for aftermarket parts on the t56 and i found a few that said stuff like "make 2-3 shift a breeze"
what do they mean by that? is that m6 hard to shift? (only manual tranny ive driven was a toyota truck)
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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two words SIX SPEED!!!!!
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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2-3 is easy to miss almost hard sometimes not to. You've always got to be concious of it.

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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Montezuma
2-3 is easy to miss almost hard sometimes not to. You've always got to be concious of it.

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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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I don't know, if you buy the parts and pay a shop to do the work it's going to be over $4k. If you do the work yourself you're going to need hundreds of dollars in tools plus a lot of time. Are you guys sure it's not easier than just buying another car? You think about putting 2500 in parts, you can take a loss on your car and pay too much for another and save some money if the trans needs repairing later on. I would stick with the AutoMatic though. You will get extremly tired of shifting.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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I don't know, if you buy the parts and pay a shop to do the work it's going to be over $4k. If you do the work yourself you're going to need hundreds of dollars in tools plus a lot of time. Are you guys sure it's not easier than just buying another car? You think about putting 2500 in parts, you can take a loss on your car and pay too much for another and save some money if the trans needs repairing later on. I would stick with the AutoMatic though. You will get extremly tired of shifting.
i appreciate your concern for my finacial situation but let me worry about that... this is my first car and i am keeping it, and its the first car ive ever laid a finger on, and im gonna learn everything there is to know about the automotive industry before i let someone else do my own work.
2500 seems like a lot for transmission work doesnt it?
well when the transmission starts slipping and my monthly gas bill runs close to 300$ i could use a higher gears and a manual transmission. and no i dont want a civic...
if u like ur auto then keep it, i like standard transmissions.
if i could get 20 mpg it would save me about $1100 in gas a year... and i know that 20 isnt even the best that those transmissions get. i know some people get more like 25-28 and if thats even reality w/ the 2.73 rear gears it would save me about 1700 a year... u do the math bud... after 2 years id have the whole thing paid off in unused gas
i better get on it! lol

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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 12:35 AM
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Then Why did you buy an A4 in the first place, it's just a car dude, it's not like there's only 3 firebird's in the whole world, you find new ones for sale everyday Besides your missing my point, rather than putting 2500 in parts into it, you can use that as a financial bumper, buy another car and sell yours. yes your probably going to loose a little money but your probably not going to loose the 2500 you would have put into it, not to metion all the tools you would need to buy and the time and effort involved. Your much better off keeping the A4 for a while and keep looking for another car. Then atleast you'll have some money left to cover yourself if one does breakdown and will not have to be without a car for 6 weeks. Don't you have any common sense?
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 12:46 AM
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It's funny that you said "i'm going to learn everything about the auto industry before i let anyone do my work for me" It would be impossible to learn everything (but i guess you already know it all anyway).

And then your pulling these numbers out of the air, like an auto is going to cost you $300 a month in gas which is BS, The auto's aren't any worse than the M6, It won't save you more than 10%.

You think your going to be able to do all this work on your own, you have never even seen this done let alone attempted it, you don't even know what tools you need. You think you're going to be able to lift and balence a 350# trans onto a car jack and jack it into place and then bolt it up?

Don't you have any common sense?
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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i just did the swap, and all you need in tools is a metric socket set with a few extenions, you could get that at sears for friggin 20 bucks, so maybe before you open your mouth, since im sure you didnt do the swap, you should know what your talking about. A six speed swap was as easy as a brake job, just more time consuming.

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