VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
Originally Posted by NightTrain66
96,
I actually did recieve a dyno sheet and time slips from Ken BUT he just wanted me to have them for my own piece of mind and did not care about dealing with the internet drama that would go with it.
If I posted the graph and time slips the next question would be "was that even his car" and if i could some how get video footage of a mid 11 second pass and dyno pulls, the next question would be "is that on a 75 shot of NOS", etc, etc.
Ken doesn't wanna play these games and I am not interested in that either. The only thing I can tell you to do is drive to his city and run him at the track and if you run an 11.80 or slower, you will probably lose and if you run an 11.50 or faster, you will probably win.
In a round about way, it is really a compliment when people say that you are doing something "impossible". I guess dynos and tracks all across the country are in on these "RWHP and ET scams", LOL. I am getting more and more B body and Vette customers too so as long as these people listen to my recomendations on complimenting parts and get good tuning, they will be in on the scam as well.
I am not trying to hustle business, believe me. I am swamped and working 10-12 hrs a day and 6-7 days a week so I am not making up stories to get more business. Anyone that doesn't believe the power of my set ups can go else where for heads. Eventually you will know "someone" with my heads and cam and see the results for yourself on a local track and be forced to believe it (or accuse them of hiding a 50-100 shot of NOS that you just can't seem to find).
Lloyd Elliott
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I actually did recieve a dyno sheet and time slips from Ken BUT he just wanted me to have them for my own piece of mind and did not care about dealing with the internet drama that would go with it.
If I posted the graph and time slips the next question would be "was that even his car" and if i could some how get video footage of a mid 11 second pass and dyno pulls, the next question would be "is that on a 75 shot of NOS", etc, etc.
Ken doesn't wanna play these games and I am not interested in that either. The only thing I can tell you to do is drive to his city and run him at the track and if you run an 11.80 or slower, you will probably lose and if you run an 11.50 or faster, you will probably win.
In a round about way, it is really a compliment when people say that you are doing something "impossible". I guess dynos and tracks all across the country are in on these "RWHP and ET scams", LOL. I am getting more and more B body and Vette customers too so as long as these people listen to my recomendations on complimenting parts and get good tuning, they will be in on the scam as well.
I am not trying to hustle business, believe me. I am swamped and working 10-12 hrs a day and 6-7 days a week so I am not making up stories to get more business. Anyone that doesn't believe the power of my set ups can go else where for heads. Eventually you will know "someone" with my heads and cam and see the results for yourself on a local track and be forced to believe it (or accuse them of hiding a 50-100 shot of NOS that you just can't seem to find).
Lloyd Elliott
972-617-5671
Eportworks.com
(Note: Guys, you have to pay for the cams too. They are not complimentary.)
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
Who is Ken? haha Is that the Impala?
Question though...? Is anyone questioning my numbers? I am not sure if someone said it, but I don't want to check all 59 posts to make sure.
I'll post the dyno chart tomorrow night or Monday sometime. I don't have a scanner but my g/f does. She is going to scan it and send it to me, then I am going to upload it and you can all check it out. I know the car will put some serious times because the pull doesn't end. I got it up to 135-140 and it was seriously a joke. Of course I was pushing it but the pull never stopped. It's a nasty pull and I swear I going from 60-120 in less then 6-7 seconds. Thats also short shifting at 6k (Suppposed to shift at 6500) and shifting really slow.
The bottom end:
Eagle Crank
Eagle Rods
SRP -5cc Pistons
Clevite Bearings
I forgot the rings... hrm. I gotta call Nick at Victory Racing Engines to make sure now.
Moroso Oil Pan
Splayed 4 Bolt
ARP Stud Kit
Might be the econo bottom end but it's getting the job done.
Question though...? Is anyone questioning my numbers? I am not sure if someone said it, but I don't want to check all 59 posts to make sure.
I'll post the dyno chart tomorrow night or Monday sometime. I don't have a scanner but my g/f does. She is going to scan it and send it to me, then I am going to upload it and you can all check it out. I know the car will put some serious times because the pull doesn't end. I got it up to 135-140 and it was seriously a joke. Of course I was pushing it but the pull never stopped. It's a nasty pull and I swear I going from 60-120 in less then 6-7 seconds. Thats also short shifting at 6k (Suppposed to shift at 6500) and shifting really slow.
The bottom end:
Eagle Crank
Eagle Rods
SRP -5cc Pistons
Clevite Bearings
I forgot the rings... hrm. I gotta call Nick at Victory Racing Engines to make sure now.
Moroso Oil Pan
Splayed 4 Bolt
ARP Stud Kit
Might be the econo bottom end but it's getting the job done.
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
I have just scanned the other posts but I do not think anyone was questioning these #'s.
My post was in response to 96Caprice when he did not think I had recieved the dyno #'s or time slips from Ken. I just wanted to make sure he knew that I did but chose not to post thema nd just let that entire post die off. Heck, he made good #'s and the car ran great and anyone would like to take credit for those results but aftre the debate that was going on before, I just decided to let the entire post die and go away.
I do not need the credit from the track/dyno results. Although that would be nice, it would not be worth hiring a sworn in preist to go drive the car and confirm track times or dyno #'s. It just was not worth even trying to prove.
Lloyd Elliott
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Eportworks.com
My post was in response to 96Caprice when he did not think I had recieved the dyno #'s or time slips from Ken. I just wanted to make sure he knew that I did but chose not to post thema nd just let that entire post die off. Heck, he made good #'s and the car ran great and anyone would like to take credit for those results but aftre the debate that was going on before, I just decided to let the entire post die and go away.
I do not need the credit from the track/dyno results. Although that would be nice, it would not be worth hiring a sworn in preist to go drive the car and confirm track times or dyno #'s. It just was not worth even trying to prove.
Lloyd Elliott
972-617-5671
Eportworks.com
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
Originally Posted by FastLt1
How big of shot do you think this will handle safely?
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
I will have to post up my results on the 385 Nick did for me in the spring. I havent had it on the dyno yet, but sometime in May it should happen.
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
I was told in another post those pistons cant take higher than a 150 shot.
Just use a little common sense before you go believing ****.
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Depends more on the tune and ring gap than the pistons themselves... any moron can destroy any piston. If those can only take a 150shot every stock piston would be butter at a 50shot.
Just use a little common sense before you go believing ****.
Bret
Just use a little common sense before you go believing ****.
Bret
Originally Posted by 12SCNDZ
When I started doing reseach for my 355, I originally looked into SRP pistons. It seems as though they're not recommended for anything over a 150 shot. SRP pistons have a high silicone content. I was told this directly from JE/SRP's tech department. The only nitrous piston JE makes would give me 13:1 + compression, because it's a domed piston. After much research, I settled on the Ross nitrous piston. The top ring is .150" down, and it's a flat top.
Frank
Frank
How much common sense should I use before I go believing the **** from srp themselves? Not saying they couldnt take more, I'm sure they can. I never said I believed it or not to begin with. I was just stating what I was told.
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
Bret has a serious attitude problem... don't mind his ******* responses.
I was told from Combination Motorsports themselves that with proper timing retard and a good tune I can fire a 250 shot on a small amount of race gas. As long as everything else checks out... proper fuel, etc...
I will be spraying a 150 shot on pump gas though with about 6 degrees retard.
I was told from Combination Motorsports themselves that with proper timing retard and a good tune I can fire a 250 shot on a small amount of race gas. As long as everything else checks out... proper fuel, etc...
I will be spraying a 150 shot on pump gas though with about 6 degrees retard.
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
This took 7 months to happen, loans, and a lot of saving. I just didn't decide to do it. Kind of thought it wouldn't cost so much but I got in to deep to turn around and forget about it.
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Re: VRE 383 with LE3 Package Finally being Dynoed!!
Honda Hunter,
What I mean is.... consider the source and just think about what they are saying. People commonly spray a 150 shot on STOCK pistons and they are a hypereutectic (meaning EXCESSIVE silicone content!) piston that is not as durable as a forged piston made to take more abuse. On top of that Nick and the guys at VRE aren't going to put a piston that can't take a 150 shot into a motor where the customer is going to spray a 300 shot!
People make dumb unfounded remarks on the net about products where they have no technical results or reasoning behind it, so that's why I say don't believe all the **** you hear. Especially 3rd party responses from someone who obviously never tested the parts in hand..... FWIW a 5.7" rod 355 SRP piston has the top ring .250" down from the top of the piston, which makes it a fine choice if the N2O tune is right.
That make more sense?
I could get into the silicone content of the forged alloy and the stock piston alloy but what you need to know is that the stock one is MUCH, MUCH higher.
Bret
What I mean is.... consider the source and just think about what they are saying. People commonly spray a 150 shot on STOCK pistons and they are a hypereutectic (meaning EXCESSIVE silicone content!) piston that is not as durable as a forged piston made to take more abuse. On top of that Nick and the guys at VRE aren't going to put a piston that can't take a 150 shot into a motor where the customer is going to spray a 300 shot!
People make dumb unfounded remarks on the net about products where they have no technical results or reasoning behind it, so that's why I say don't believe all the **** you hear. Especially 3rd party responses from someone who obviously never tested the parts in hand..... FWIW a 5.7" rod 355 SRP piston has the top ring .250" down from the top of the piston, which makes it a fine choice if the N2O tune is right.
That make more sense?
I could get into the silicone content of the forged alloy and the stock piston alloy but what you need to know is that the stock one is MUCH, MUCH higher.
Bret
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