Shorties or Long pipes?
Shorties or Long pipes?
Im looking to get headers for my 97 Z28 currently it has a CAI, I want to get the most power at the bottom RPM range. I use the car daily so Im not looking to build a full racer Im looking to build a clean quick street machine. Also I have heard that long tubes provide the most bottom end torque and HP. Also as far as hard how hard is to install headers on a LT1?
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
Installing headers on an LT1 is pretty challenging for someone who hasn't done it before. Plan on a full day with a friend's help.
If you can, go with long tubes (if emissions isn't a concern). They provide substantial gains over their short tube counterparts.
If you can, go with long tubes (if emissions isn't a concern). They provide substantial gains over their short tube counterparts.
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
Not necessarily! One advantage of short (or mid-tube) on a 97 is that you can maintain your dual CAT's and O2's. And good mid-tubes loose very little in HP over long tubes. Ground clearance can also be an issue with long tubes and a lowered car.
Last edited by Z28SORR; Nov 24, 2010 at 10:29 AM.
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
Agree with SORR above. It really depends on your situation and emissions requirements. If not looking for track performance...shorties/mid can be a good upgrade.
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
So long pipes make more hp, which do you guys feel are easier to install? As far as emissions go I'm not worried I live in Wyoming. What do you guys think about buying some used headers? Is there anythin I should look out for?
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
I agree. A good shorty or mid tube will produce as much as a long tube.
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
The whole theory on primary length is that longer primaries boost torque at low RPM, shorter primaries boost torque higher RPM. What works best for you depends on what the purpose of the vehicle is. A street car benefits from the low end torque, a track car benefits from the high RPM torque.
Unfortunately, I've seen dyno results that both confirm and contradict the theory.
Unfortunately, I've seen dyno results that both confirm and contradict the theory.
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
Ground clearance is slightly less with long tubes but if you have a lowered car you are probably used to watching where and how you drive.
As far as installation- it depends on brand. I had BBK mids before and they weren't any easier than my Pacestter Longs. Plug access is considerably better on the long tubes however.
As far as installation- it depends on brand. I had BBK mids before and they weren't any easier than my Pacestter Longs. Plug access is considerably better on the long tubes however.
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
I have had both before on the same car. I recommend longtubes. I put shortys on first and I didn't even notice a difference. After the long tubes there was a definite difference in seat-o-pants meter.
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
For more power in the bottom RPM range, go with a pair of long tubes. Just get yourself a set of 02 extensions and do the pcm tune. If you're on a budget Pacesetter makes a pretty good LT. Get rid of the egr while you're in there too
Re: Shorties or Long pipes?
I got Mac Mids and they have good plug access, I guess the install is a little pita, but not too bad. I've had them for 13yrs and no complaints. One thing I do remember though don't use the gaskets they provide, get new stock metal gaskets & they wont ever leak.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
drptop70ss
Parts For Sale
2
May 4, 2015 08:22 PM



