Muscle Car Lope
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
Originally Posted by jchevy
a lot of the old car sound comes from the true duals also.
My cam is on a 110 lsa and i think it sounds pretty tame. its nothing like my buddies cc306 with true duals with a 112lsa.
A lot of people dont realize, but that lope is actually the car running like crap because the cam isnt designed for low rpm. The valve overlap is to much for how slow the motor is turning.
My cam is on a 110 lsa and i think it sounds pretty tame. its nothing like my buddies cc306 with true duals with a 112lsa.
A lot of people dont realize, but that lope is actually the car running like crap because the cam isnt designed for low rpm. The valve overlap is to much for how slow the motor is turning.
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
Originally Posted by streetrod93
you wouldn't happen to have a sound clip of his car do you. i'm currently running a cc305 through true duals to flowmaster 4 series mufflers....it sounds mean as is with a smaller cam (220/230) 114. i was anxiouse to hear the cc306 through true duals. i'll be putting that particual cam in my motor in the next two weeks.
No, unfortunatley i dont have any sound clips of his car.
Do you have any pics of your setup?
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
383, big cam, tight lsa, true duals.
http://www.becelectric.com/albums/al...TR_Duals_1.avi
http://www.becelectric.com/albums/al...TR_Duals_1.avi
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
i don't have any pics of the exuast...but the guy that did it did a great job...fabricated from the headers back. he made the x-pipe by seting it up as a straight pipe car, then bent the 2 pipe, cut both of them and welded it together....it looks very good under the car and tucks up close all the way around....i'll see if i can't get some pictures in the next week or so.
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
Originally Posted by flatlander757
I've found that most really lopey cams tend to favor a high rpm range(ie: shifting at 6500+), I wonder if it's possible to get a nice lope at idle, and a good low to midrange boost in power? Basically to make it a fun to drive street/show car.
Almost all of the cams I've done for Lloyd do that for ya, they all drive well and lope like SOB's!
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
How does the overlap differ from that of LT1 style cams or is there no difference? Could you use examples please.
Its not like I am wanting a cam for sound, just wondering how it gets the way it is. I just got my job I've been waiting on, so Lloyd and Bret can stop hearing me talk about getting a H/C Package and I'll just order one.
-Dustin-
Its not like I am wanting a cam for sound, just wondering how it gets the way it is. I just got my job I've been waiting on, so Lloyd and Bret can stop hearing me talk about getting a H/C Package and I'll just order one.
-Dustin-
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
Ok lets say a flat tappet solid out of a '69 Z28
That cam was a
Advertised 346/346
.050" 254/254
114 LSA
A CC306
Advertised 290/307
.050" 230/244
112LSA
The old Z28 cam has almost 40% more overlap area because the lobes are so lazy. Now add in the solid lifer sound and it's pretty bad *** sounding.
FWIW a LE3 cam has a litte more overlap AREA than the old Z28 cam so that's why it chops like a ****.
Bret
That cam was a
Advertised 346/346
.050" 254/254
114 LSA
A CC306
Advertised 290/307
.050" 230/244
112LSA
The old Z28 cam has almost 40% more overlap area because the lobes are so lazy. Now add in the solid lifer sound and it's pretty bad *** sounding.
FWIW a LE3 cam has a litte more overlap AREA than the old Z28 cam so that's why it chops like a ****.
Bret
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
i have a question about the solid roller motors. i understand the difference between solid and hydraulic rollers, but i was curious as to why they sound so much different other then the significantly larger cams that can be run???
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Ok lets say a flat tappet solid out of a '69 Z28
That cam was a
Advertised 346/346
.050" 254/254
114 LSA
A CC306
Advertised 290/307
.050" 230/244
112LSA
The old Z28 cam has almost 40% more overlap area because the lobes are so lazy. Now add in the solid lifer sound and it's pretty bad *** sounding.
FWIW a LE3 cam has a litte more overlap AREA than the old Z28 cam so that's why it chops like a ****.
Bret
That cam was a
Advertised 346/346
.050" 254/254
114 LSA
A CC306
Advertised 290/307
.050" 230/244
112LSA
The old Z28 cam has almost 40% more overlap area because the lobes are so lazy. Now add in the solid lifer sound and it's pretty bad *** sounding.
FWIW a LE3 cam has a litte more overlap AREA than the old Z28 cam so that's why it chops like a ****.
Bret
Also what does overlap get you or take away? Is there a reason LT1's dont have as much? I dont think its economical to go solid lifters in a stock block LT1 right?
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
355 with a cam motion solid roller. This is a 110 LS with hooker LTs with bullets hung off the collector.
http://www.ipsb.net/herringt/video/idle.wmv
http://www.ipsb.net/herringt/video/idle.wmv
Last edited by 95Bird; Jan 26, 2006 at 01:52 PM.
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Re: Muscle Car Lope
Originally Posted by 95Bird
355 with a cam motion solid roller. This is a 110 LS with hooker LTs with bullets hung off the collector.
http://www.ipsb.net/herringt/video/idle.wmv
http://www.ipsb.net/herringt/video/idle.wmv
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