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McLeod streetwin sucks....need a new clutch!

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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by 96-speed
There's no logical reason that you'd make a post to bash Mcleod before you've even called them. Its one thing if you call and they tell you tough luck. Besides, maybe you installed it wrong...


Ryan

Ok....well, I guess its obvious that you cant read. I stated about 2-3 different times that it was not installed by me. Try reading my above posts completely.

I have already had issues with them in the begining. Also, I dont not believe that any clutch should wear that quickly...espically for all they claim. Was it a defect?, dont know. Installed wrong? initaially wrong flywheel...but that was fixed and it was perfect after that. The other guy above on page one also said his is worn like that with only 5k miles. To me, that is not acceptable for a clutch. I do not consider hundreds of hotspots normal, etc. Like I have said about 3 times already. Im taking it to the speed shop tomorrow/monday and see what they say. Then, Ill probably call McLeod from there and get stuff settled.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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I run the alum fly and it's way lighter than stock. Obviously you've got bad info. My weighed in at exactly 9.5lbs. Didn't have any chatter until some geezer joy rided in my car last yr during a paint estimate. It would grab and I could literally cruise at 3mph no chugging or anything and this is on a 396 w/ a pretty big hydro cam on 110 LSA. No more though until I buy some new discs which will be next yr.

Take everyone's advice keep and and sort it out. It's the 1st and last clutch I ever bought and I'm completely satisfied. Somebody installed it wrong that's for sure. IF it's torqure wrong it doesn't engage the way it's supposed. Know that for a fact!

Most folks get 15-20K out of before replacing the discs and that's w/ regular wkend 1/4 blasts.

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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 02:39 AM
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My Street Twin has lasted 3 years, 60 000 miles, 2 drag race seasons... including about 40 4000RPM clutch dumps.

Can't say the same about my 10-bolt(s) (on posi #3 right now), but I've NEVER had a problem with the Street Twin, other than it'll grab any time you want it to.

Can anyone else here chirp 4th with only 280 rwhp? didn't think so.


Call McLeod and get a new unit.

BTW, mine was one of the early designs that didn't even have an adjustable cylinder (someone mentioned it above, but that's not the problem). Just get an installer who is detail oriented and knows what the hell their doing.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 02:45 AM
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Yeah....It seems that thats going to be my only option. I have been searching all day and there doesnt seem to be anything better Anyhow, Im taking the clutch to stropes tomorrow to show them and will call McLeod as well. Hopefully between the two of them...they can replace it or at least some of it.

FWIW...any of you running the aluminum McLeod flywheel with good results? I really dont want to use my 40lb ancor anymore. However, it sucks that even their light weight aluminum flywheel...still weighs more than stock, WTF!


Ill keep you all updated!
wrong info. even the steel wheel is lighter than stock. The steel one is more streetable and is typically called the Drag Race version... while the aluminum version is used by Road Racers.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 02:50 AM
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Re: McLeod streettwin sucks....need a new clutch!

Originally posted by N2OpwrdTA
Im ditching my 40lb Mcleod ****ty steel flywheel. The speed shop initially said "you want that heavy flywheel...will give you more rotating mass to launch better", well...I only drag race a few times a year (if that). My car is more weekend curiser/show car. So, Im not interested in super launches anymore and will probably go with an aluminum lightweight setup(i want to try something different anyhow). .....

FWIW....I had this installed by the speed shop(didnt do my own work then). And it was about 2yrs ago(yeah, my car only sees a few thousand miles a year, at most). Anyhow, when initially installed....I got it back and took it home. Chattered so bad that it nearly broke the passanger seat with vibrations. So, I take it to the speed shop that did it, they inspect it. Turns out, McLeod originally sent hem a "drag race" flywheel, instead of a stree flywheel. Apparently, the drag race flywheel was meant for instant grab, high rpm launches...hence the seat busting vibrations I was experiencing.
doesn't sound right at all. $10 says the shop messed up the install and tried to blame McLeod. The drag race verison IS the steel wheel... and it's MORE streetable than the aluminum verison which will increase chatter. I have NO idea why they would claim the aluminum wheel is a "drag race" version. wierd.

good luck sorting it out... my ST is doing great, I KNOW they are a quality product.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by N2OpwrdTA
Ok....well, I guess its obvious that you cant read. I stated about 2-3 different times that it was not installed by me. Try reading my above posts completely.
Doesn't really matter who installed it if they didn't do it right. Trust me, its EASY to mess up. I pulled mine off a couple times making sure I had it on right. Here's my main beef with your whole deal: You're bashing Mcleod and haven't even called them. It takes less effort to call Mcleod and see what's wrong than to come on the board and bomb them. If you're really concerned with preventing other people from having the same problem or finding a solution to your problem, call Mcleod and tell them about your case.

Here's the number:

714-630-2764 - Talk to Les. Sometimes he's hard to get a hold of. Be patient.

Please inform us of what he says.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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hmmmm Ryan andlt1homer is right, rodrigues is right...hell eveyone here is right!

1. call George or Les

2. their customer service ROCKS and their turnaround time is amazing!

3. approx. 750 rwhp dropping the clutch at approx. 5,000 rpm. on 28x10.5 ET Drags....carrying the front wheels for 40+ feet. i beg to differ on it being a poorly built product! keep in mind what you put in the car ... there are some sacrifices!

what i would do first is delete this thread.... then call them. once problem is rectified post a new thread. just my .02, and no they aren't a sponsor for me....don't i wish

ok i'll get off my soapbox

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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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First off, I am not deleting this post. Thanks for that awesome idea

Well, I got up early this morning and took the Mcleod to stropesspeedshop. They looked at it and said, wow....thats horrible. Did you break it in right?? I said, WTH.....dont try and blam this on me. You guys installed it with the wrong part the first time and all that chatter probably wapred the disks enough to cause all the problems. Then all you do is replace the flywheel with the one that should have been on in the first place and leave my then ****ed up disks to survive on there own. I said on top of that I dont even have 2,400 miles on it yet. They looked at there records and a pic of my odometer that I took with me and were amazed that I want lying.

Anyhow, we called McLeod and tell them about the problem. The guy there at McLeod said, oh...well send us the clutch(flywheel pp, disks and all), reciepts(which I dont have anymore, but stropes does stored in there computer and well take a look at it. Again, like last time....they wont pay shipping either. I got to pay it and if they decided to fix it....they will refund it. WTF! If not, and I would happen to need those back then I have to pay both ways. This is BS. This is probably going to be like with they first sent the wrong parts and it took them 2weeks to get me the right damn flywheel. Ill let you all know what ends up happening.

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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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Seems to me you haven't given McLeod a chance yet. Send it back, see what they say, then post. It's premature at this point.

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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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I have had no problems as well with my twin disk. After 3 years of hard abuse my clutch disks still measured out great. Yeah, I had a few hot spots, but you'll have that with all other clutches as well. I just scuffed it all down and put it back in.
Call McLeod and they will help you out.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by N2OpwrdTA


Anyhow, we called McLeod and tell them about the problem. The guy there at McLeod said, oh...well send us the clutch(flywheel pp, disks and all), reciepts(which I dont have anymore, but stropes does stored in there computer and well take a look at it. Again, like last time....they wont pay shipping either. I got to pay it and if they decided to fix it....they will refund it. WTF! If not, and I would happen to need those back then I have to pay both ways. This is BS. This is probably going to be like with they first sent the wrong parts and it took them 2weeks to get me the right damn flywheel. Ill let you all know what ends up happening.
This is common with any place, I had a SPEC clutch literally explode and I had to pay shipping to them for them to look at it. Think of all the money they would lose if they paid for this shipping and the clutches were installed wrong or it was not a manufacturing defect.

I got a new unit from SPEC and they paid shipping to me. You really think that someone would pay the shipping charges after the company tells them that the clutch being worn was not a manufacturing defect? Hardly

Give them a chance, and if Mcleod says it's an installation problem don't back down from the Speed Shop. Stropes is well known in GMHTP I would hope that they know how to install a clutch.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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well if you wanted possibly the same type of rteatment from a dealer then a stock clutch is what you should've bought! yes, it is very common place for you to bite the bullet, this stuff is afterall aftermarket, i dont't care if it is mcleod or msd, i have had to bite the bullet on shipping many times.

if this is stuff that is going to ruin your day then leave it stock and buy the extended warranty

i am sure McLeod will sort things out, if possible when you get a new one, if you have the means install it yourself!

g'luck.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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I bought my Street Twin used. It came out of George Baxter's unbelieveably powerful 30th SS convertible, and had a lot of street miles and a lot of track passes on it. It was in great shape when I bought it. I had it installed, ran it for a year and beat the **** out of it. It was in good shape when I took it out, holding well, very little wear. It did have hot spots on it, but I'm not sure why you wouldn't see that on a clutch that was seeing 5K-6K clutch dumps behind a relatively healthy engine. After the TH400 install, I AGAIN sold it, and the 3rd person is using it... although I doubt they have much street time on it because he had problems getting the car out of the engine shop.

Several people I know have the Street Twin, and give it a real beating, with no problems. If I still had a 6-speed, I'd have nothing but a Street Twin.

The blatant condemnation of McLeod for the problems you are experiencing seems extremely premature.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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yeah if you dont properly break in the clutch, top of the line clutch or stock, itll fail soon. just my 2 cents. i hope everything goes well for you, and im sorry you have to go through this. Ive been screwed over too many times by shops to bash you, so ill just say good luck.
Old Oct 17, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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if this is stuff that is going to ruin your day then leave it stock and buy the extended warranty
Drives me crazy sometimes, but I have to always keep this in mind, as I tend to modify everything I drive....hell, even my lawnmower is modded.



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