Lt1 tuning help
Re: Lt1 tuning help
You didn’t answer the question about how you can read your digital gauge when the PCM goes into closed loop. Does the gauge reading start to jump around about 4 minutes after cold start, and with the coolant temp above 140-degF?
If the A/F ratio numbers aren’t changing rapidly, even at idle, it’s possible the PCM isn’t going into closed loop. If it stays in open loop, the PCM can’t correct for the lean condition. If it was in closed loop, the PCM would see the lean O2 sensors and richen the mixture by increasing the long term fuel trims (LTFT or BLM's) until it got the A/F ratio back to 14.7:1. But that's not happening. All this would be easy with the data log.
Just how “white” are the plugs? Modern EFI systems don’t seem to produce the coffee brown plugs the carbs did. Look at the NGK plug site for their spark plug color chart. And how do we know the O2 sensors are healthy, or that the digital gauge is accurate? Do you have any evidence of knock retard with the engine under load? Do you hear any knock with the engine under load?
The PCM is programmed to achieve 14.7:1 because that is the A/F ratio that produces minimum emissions (total of HC, CO, NOx). The engine could achieve better fuel economy with an A/F ratio of perhaps 15.8:1. But that would increase the formation of NOx.
If the A/F ratio numbers aren’t changing rapidly, even at idle, it’s possible the PCM isn’t going into closed loop. If it stays in open loop, the PCM can’t correct for the lean condition. If it was in closed loop, the PCM would see the lean O2 sensors and richen the mixture by increasing the long term fuel trims (LTFT or BLM's) until it got the A/F ratio back to 14.7:1. But that's not happening. All this would be easy with the data log.
Just how “white” are the plugs? Modern EFI systems don’t seem to produce the coffee brown plugs the carbs did. Look at the NGK plug site for their spark plug color chart. And how do we know the O2 sensors are healthy, or that the digital gauge is accurate? Do you have any evidence of knock retard with the engine under load? Do you hear any knock with the engine under load?
The PCM is programmed to achieve 14.7:1 because that is the A/F ratio that produces minimum emissions (total of HC, CO, NOx). The engine could achieve better fuel economy with an A/F ratio of perhaps 15.8:1. But that would increase the formation of NOx.
Re: Lt1 tuning help
Re: Lt1 tuning help
You didn’t answer the question about how you can read your digital gauge when the PCM goes into closed loop. Does the gauge reading start to jump around about 4 minutes after cold start, and with the coolant temp above 140-degF?
If the A/F ratio numbers aren’t changing rapidly, even at idle, it’s possible the PCM isn’t going into closed loop. If it stays in open loop, the PCM can’t correct for the lean condition. If it was in closed loop, the PCM would see the lean O2 sensors and richen the mixture by increasing the long term fuel trims (LTFT or BLM's) until it got the A/F ratio back to 14.7:1. But that's not happening. All this would be easy with the data log.
Just how “white” are the plugs? Modern EFI systems don’t seem to produce the coffee brown plugs the carbs did. Look at the NGK plug site for their spark plug color chart. And how do we know the O2 sensors are healthy, or that the digital gauge is accurate? Do you have any evidence of knock retard with the engine under load? Do you hear any knock with the engine under load?
The PCM is programmed to achieve 14.7:1 because that is the A/F ratio that produces minimum emissions (total of HC, CO, NOx). The engine could achieve better fuel economy with an A/F ratio of perhaps 15.8:1. But that would increase the formation of NOx.
If the A/F ratio numbers aren’t changing rapidly, even at idle, it’s possible the PCM isn’t going into closed loop. If it stays in open loop, the PCM can’t correct for the lean condition. If it was in closed loop, the PCM would see the lean O2 sensors and richen the mixture by increasing the long term fuel trims (LTFT or BLM's) until it got the A/F ratio back to 14.7:1. But that's not happening. All this would be easy with the data log.
Just how “white” are the plugs? Modern EFI systems don’t seem to produce the coffee brown plugs the carbs did. Look at the NGK plug site for their spark plug color chart. And how do we know the O2 sensors are healthy, or that the digital gauge is accurate? Do you have any evidence of knock retard with the engine under load? Do you hear any knock with the engine under load?
The PCM is programmed to achieve 14.7:1 because that is the A/F ratio that produces minimum emissions (total of HC, CO, NOx). The engine could achieve better fuel economy with an A/F ratio of perhaps 15.8:1. But that would increase the formation of NOx.
Ill take a video of the digital readout. Post it on here to help you see what i see.
Short of using a multimeter (to monitor o2 sensor voltage) while i am running down the road, ive had to revert to the way you would tune a car in the 60’s. Go down the 1/4 mile, see your time, make a change, see if it improves. Rinse and repeat.
Thats why i am looking for the setting to just run a little richer in my tuning.
Re: Lt1 tuning help
im located in palatka fl.
Re: Lt1 tuning help
Have you tried different programming cables?
Off the wall question....do your lights pulse at night? Have you checked the AC level at the battery? With the car running, take an AC voltage reading at the battery. If something is screwed with the alternator rectifiers it can cause AC to ride in on the DC which can cause all kinds of strange voltage issues.
If you know how to use an o-scope, it would be best to look at how clean the voltage signals are with it.
Off the wall question....do your lights pulse at night? Have you checked the AC level at the battery? With the car running, take an AC voltage reading at the battery. If something is screwed with the alternator rectifiers it can cause AC to ride in on the DC which can cause all kinds of strange voltage issues.
If you know how to use an o-scope, it would be best to look at how clean the voltage signals are with it.
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Re: Lt1 tuning help
Using direct emails, I suggested the same but I doubt he has an O-scope. I would guess it is operating borderline; working, failing, then working again.
I also suggested unplugging the other modules on the bus.
Also, he is using a pc with Windows XP. The latest version of scan9495 is not always compatible with XP. Unfortunately program that has the 93 year is only in the later versions. In this case, I now suggest he uses a newer operating system like 7 or later. I probably would not risk the purchase of a new pc expecting this to work. Maybe borrow one for a while first.
I also suggested unplugging the other modules on the bus.
Also, he is using a pc with Windows XP. The latest version of scan9495 is not always compatible with XP. Unfortunately program that has the 93 year is only in the later versions. In this case, I now suggest he uses a newer operating system like 7 or later. I probably would not risk the purchase of a new pc expecting this to work. Maybe borrow one for a while first.
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