LS1 Heads on a LT!??? Why Not?
LS1 Heads on a LT!??? Why Not?
I always here how the LS1 heads are so much better then the LT1 heads, but why cant you put LS1 heads onto a LT1, as I understand the blocks are the same design, only 4 cubes difference. So why cant I put LS1 heads on my LT1?? if the 4 ci is the difference then could it be machined to match the LT1 cylinder?
FYI, I have NO technical information about this, this is pure speculation on my part.
FYI, I have NO technical information about this, this is pure speculation on my part.
It's ok man... I asked this question too when I was new.
In a nutshell:
--Head bolt locations / angles
--Intake / exhaust port locations (LS1 doesn't have siamesing like LT1 and other SB-chevy's do, so you'd have to custom-fab an intake manifold)
--Cylinder / chamber spacing (even if you just lay the LS1 head on the block it's chambers won't line up to the LT1's cylinders)
--Coolant passageways
This stuff is not the type of stuff you can fix with "a little machine work".
Also If anyone ever tells you that they've got an LS1 cam in their LT1 car, they're full of it. Journal sizes and spacing are different (I think). The closest you could come is getting a cam custom ground to match the specs.
What I really wish someone would do is make an SBC head that had LS1-style ports that weren't siamesed. But then you'd need somebody to grind a cam that had lobes to match.
In a nutshell:
--Head bolt locations / angles
--Intake / exhaust port locations (LS1 doesn't have siamesing like LT1 and other SB-chevy's do, so you'd have to custom-fab an intake manifold)
--Cylinder / chamber spacing (even if you just lay the LS1 head on the block it's chambers won't line up to the LT1's cylinders)
--Coolant passageways
This stuff is not the type of stuff you can fix with "a little machine work".
Also If anyone ever tells you that they've got an LS1 cam in their LT1 car, they're full of it. Journal sizes and spacing are different (I think). The closest you could come is getting a cam custom ground to match the specs.
What I really wish someone would do is make an SBC head that had LS1-style ports that weren't siamesed. But then you'd need somebody to grind a cam that had lobes to match.
Originally posted by trax
It's ok man... I asked this question too when I was new.
-SNIP-
What I really wish someone would do is make an SBC head that had LS1-style ports that weren't siamesed. But then you'd need somebody to grind a cam that had lobes to match.
It's ok man... I asked this question too when I was new.
-SNIP-
What I really wish someone would do is make an SBC head that had LS1-style ports that weren't siamesed. But then you'd need somebody to grind a cam that had lobes to match.
Ha ha, ooh its nice to dream isn't it. I would like to see the look on someones face when they see a 4 bolt pattern instead of 5.
Nothing interchangable as far as internals/engine parts go, go buy an LS1 if thats what you want
Nothing interchangable as far as internals/engine parts go, go buy an LS1 if thats what you want
Originally posted by turbo_Z
same reason you cant put ford heads on a chevy... nothing lines up right b/c they are 2 totally different animals.
same reason you cant put ford heads on a chevy... nothing lines up right b/c they are 2 totally different animals.
Ford licensed Hemi technology, anything can be done with money - but for the common man, usually it would be a waste to try. Keep in mind those LS1s are not 23º heads, so more PITA for you there.
Delorean also was involved in a SBC hemi project, problem was it made about the same HP as a hopped up SBC head.
Get some SBC heads adapted or get some AFRs.
Delorean also was involved in a SBC hemi project, problem was it made about the same HP as a hopped up SBC head.
Get some SBC heads adapted or get some AFRs.
Any compotent engine builder can modify a Generation 1 cylinder head to work on the LT1.
So your choices are unlimited, although I would say it's a waste of time doing this for another 23º head. AFR has you pretty well covered there.
Take care
So your choices are unlimited, although I would say it's a waste of time doing this for another 23º head. AFR has you pretty well covered there.
Take care
Originally posted by Dr.Mudge
go buy an LS1 if thats what you want
go buy an LS1 if thats what you want
I didnt know they were so different, I jsut thought that they were similar displacement V8 so other things would fit up, but i really had no idea at all.
hmmm guess going to have to search this putting a LS1 into a LT1 car thing more, seems like its the easier/cheaper power adder.
Cheaper option is to use the engine you have and pay for a cylinder head conversion.
There are better performance options in the 1st generation race cylinder heads. A 600 bhp 383 or 396 is a breeze with that route and you could do it on a budget.
Take care
There are better performance options in the 1st generation race cylinder heads. A 600 bhp 383 or 396 is a breeze with that route and you could do it on a budget.
Take care
Originally posted by Mr. Horsepower
There are better performance options in the 1st generation race cylinder heads. A 600 bhp 383 or 396 is a breeze with that route and you could do it on a budget.
There are better performance options in the 1st generation race cylinder heads. A 600 bhp 383 or 396 is a breeze with that route and you could do it on a budget.
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