Long tubes seem the best choice for performance, but i use my car mainly as a daily driver. I also don't quite have the money for the lt's. I think i will use the shorties, but maybe switch in the future. The edelbrock shorties are what i'm looking at.

Does anyone know any good choices for shorties?

Thanks again for the advice.

 

I have LPE shorties. They are stainless and I just had them coated from Jet Hot. They have been on the car since 1995 and have been great. I trap at over 118 mph with these things so I can't believe that they are costing me too much hp...I am thinking about the Kooks 1 3/4 stepped to 1 7/8 based on advice from Joe O, but I'd say what I have is fairly free flowing...and Kooks are $$$...

A set of big tube (1 3/4") shorties should work fine for you and do for me...I dunno if LPE sells these things anymore, but if you want shorties look at anything with 1 3/4 tubes and get them Jet Hot coated inside and out...

--Alan

 

Please dont waste money on Edelbrocks...

RK Sport Midlengths for 94-95 cars is only $450.00 ceramic coated inside and out.

Pacesetters I think are a little over $450 for a set.

If you go with crap to begin with its going to cost you alot of time, money and frustration. I use LT's on my daily driver as well as everyone else I know with LT's.

What are edelbrocks $350? Not even coated Plus install material and time. The more time to take them out, get more install parts and time to put longtubes or good midlengths in. Plus extra cash to buy them, and getting less than half back what you paid for the edelbrocks new. Not to mention very high engine bay temps from uncoated headers and possible burnt components. All the while your making about 10-15 less HP than everyone with decent headers. Ask anyone who has edelbrocks who went to LT's. They'll tell you to do straight to LT's.

I am begging you man dont make the same mistake many others have.

-Dustin-

 

what would i need to do to get the lt's functioning properly? What would the steps be too remove the emission equipment, and what about the egr system?

One more question, what is a good brand of lt's that are coated and don't sacrifice ground clearance and underhood temp.

Thanks

 

To my knowledge the only LT's that are good on ground clearance are the Dynatech LT's and Kooks. I myself was looking into some Dynatech headers but I have heard to many install horror stories. I'm just going to bite the clearance bullent and go with Jet-Hot headers. LT's don't kill ground clearance that bad, I look at like this, if you don't scrap the air dam then odds are you won't scrap the headers.

 

With a stock and unmodified engine, SLP shorties and random tech Y pipe got me to 13.0 at 107 mph with an automatic and stock converter. I think that speaks pretty well that the Y pipe combined with the shorties flows enough to produce decent times and not sacrifice ground clearance. It's also smog legal. Ironically, I did a Hooker long tube conversion and mufflex Y pipe for a friend on his 95 Z28. With a borla cat back and a stick shift he was only trapping 105 mph. He even had lower mileage than mine too. So much for shooting down the shorties.

 

No question whatsoever


Longtubes



if you want shortys, your better off sending me the money

 

I and about 98% of everyone else would take LT's over shorties anyday including sunday. Everyone I have ever met or talked to who switched from shorties to longtubes have seen significant improvement. I guess those are all flukes

What other mods did you have to trap 107mph or was it just the magical shorties?

-Dustin-

 

I have the SLP dual cat shorties, and ran the times in sig... but after a stainless works y-pipe not fitting up right, I am making the switch to LT's... bought my buddys pacesetter uncoated LT's and y-pipe for 100 dollars even, the collecters need to be fixed up, but hey, I know can have a better exhaust no matter what, because the stock dual-cat y-pipe is horrible!

 

I love your sig "I should have just bought LT's "

-Dustin-

 

I was looking at some jet hot lt's

Would coated lt's be able to perform even in minnesota winters?

Does anyone know if any jet hot headers can accept the emission equipment

 

Have you had both? My last car with 1.6 rockers and mac shorties was much faster than my current car with LT's and 1.7 rockers. I picked up 1 mph with my LT's on this car and 5 mph with shorties on my last car. I think I am going to side with the 2% and go for some mac shorties. I spent close to a grand on my LT set up to gain 1 mph at the track over manifolds! Complete waste of cash if you ask me.

 

Ran 13.3 @ 106mph(2.0 60') with hooker shorties, CAI, and 4.10s. I believe you gain ahelluvalot more going from manifolds to shorties than from shorties to longtubes.

I installed my coated pacesetter longtubes last week...

 

Well it used to say that, because I did buy some. the uncoated LT's and y-pipe for 100 dollars, the collecters need fixed though.. just a good reason to throw some flanges on there.

 

Its always a good idea to to compare headers on the same car. Too many extra variables going from car to car for a fair assesment. I know several people who upon switching to longtubes from shorties on the same car gained MPH and faster ET's.

I'm not saying Mids and shorties are terrible, both are good. But when you can have LT's why waste your time and money? The only thing I would consider somewhat parallel to LT's are the AS&M series Mids.

-Dustin-