how much do bigger wheels slow you down?
Originally posted by pu12en12g
You aren't wrong necessarily, but now you are talking tires, not wheels...
You aren't wrong necessarily, but now you are talking tires, not wheels...
That said, I'm not at all against huge wheels. They just look so damn good.
To each his own, but i think you bought the wrong car...Im sure theres a nice used escalade for you to go BLing Bling in...spen the 1200 on porting your heads and then go kick some real a$$ and show what a Z was made for....
As OldStroker had already pointed out.... it is weight AND size. The wheel/tire combo aborbs energy when you acclerate it. How much it absorbs (and steals from the power you put to the pavement) is a function of the polar moment of inertia.... and that is a product of weight, and the distance the weight is located from the axle. Get a thin section wall tire on a large diameter rim, and the mass is moved farther from the axle. More HP to bring it up to speed. Basic physics.
The dyno test at ws6.com is a measure of the potential loss.... he lost 3.5HP just because he made the wheels wider... If you move that mass farther from the axle, you are going to lose more HP... how much... it can be calculated.
I was in a shop the other day and they had a 23" diameter wheel off an Escalade.... I would guess it was close to 90# with the tire...???????????
Some other considerations with 20's:
-more susceptible to rim damage from potholes
-harsh ride
-lost HP
-high cost for tires
-negative impact on handling with a solid axle suspension... the cars that come from the factory with huge rims are all independant rear suspension, with more compliance to make up for the short/stiff sidewall.
-even a 245/35-20 is an inch larger than the stock wheel/tire... raises the car 1/2" further off the ground, pushes the tires up into the wheel well with more potential for rubbing, had the same effect as going to lower numerical rear axle ratio.
Lot of negatives, and the only positive is highly subjective....
The dyno test at ws6.com is a measure of the potential loss.... he lost 3.5HP just because he made the wheels wider... If you move that mass farther from the axle, you are going to lose more HP... how much... it can be calculated.
I was in a shop the other day and they had a 23" diameter wheel off an Escalade.... I would guess it was close to 90# with the tire...???????????
Some other considerations with 20's:
-more susceptible to rim damage from potholes
-harsh ride
-lost HP
-high cost for tires
-negative impact on handling with a solid axle suspension... the cars that come from the factory with huge rims are all independant rear suspension, with more compliance to make up for the short/stiff sidewall.
-even a 245/35-20 is an inch larger than the stock wheel/tire... raises the car 1/2" further off the ground, pushes the tires up into the wheel well with more potential for rubbing, had the same effect as going to lower numerical rear axle ratio.
Lot of negatives, and the only positive is highly subjective....
Originally posted by teke184
on a side note....i think 20's look hideous on fbodies...18's are as big as i would go...corvette thin spokes baby...saving up as i speak
on a side note....i think 20's look hideous on fbodies...18's are as big as i would go...corvette thin spokes baby...saving up as i speak
*giggles like a catholic school girl* yep, i got the vette 18's...allllll around. yeah baby, yeah!!!
- My 20's are lighter than my 18's
- Handling, traction, and ride quality is unbelieveable
Handling in the twisties can't even be described, and I finally got rid of the notorious F-Body wheelgap.
- I am the first F-Body with 20x10.5 on all 4 with 35 series tires, and I am stoked about it
even the offset is better than I had imagined.
- My tires will be around $600 each season
I agree with the following Injuneer posts:
-more susceptible to rim damage from potholes
-high cost for tires
-even a 245/35-20 is an inch larger than the stock wheel/tire... raises the car 1/2" further off the ground, pushes the tires up into the wheel well with more potential for rubbing, had the same effect as going to lower numerical rear axle ratio
- Handling, traction, and ride quality is unbelieveable
Handling in the twisties can't even be described, and I finally got rid of the notorious F-Body wheelgap.- I am the first F-Body with 20x10.5 on all 4 with 35 series tires, and I am stoked about it
even the offset is better than I had imagined.- My tires will be around $600 each season
I agree with the following Injuneer posts:
-more susceptible to rim damage from potholes
-high cost for tires
-even a 245/35-20 is an inch larger than the stock wheel/tire... raises the car 1/2" further off the ground, pushes the tires up into the wheel well with more potential for rubbing, had the same effect as going to lower numerical rear axle ratio
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